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The Embarrassment of Christian Media

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  • The Embarrassment of Christian Media

    Yes. They're actually making a movie about this.... http://deeperwaters.ddns.net/?p=8487

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    They made a movie out of the atheist professor chain mail, what did you expect?
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

    There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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    • #3
      I haven't heard of that.

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      • #4
        The one with Hercules in it.
        "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

        There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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        • #5
          I actually thought God's Not Dead was a decent start. At least it's getting into apologetics some, though the ending was way too cheesy.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Apologiaphoenix View Post
            I actually thought God's Not Dead was a decent start. At least it's getting into apologetics some, though the ending was way too cheesy.
            Yeah, over all it was pretty good, but there were a number of cheesy moments besides the ending.
            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Yeah, over all it was pretty good, but there were a number of cheesy moments besides the ending.
              Oh, I'm going to have to disagree with that... overall, I think it was pretty cheesy and bordering on insulting to actual apologetics(something I don't claim to be an expert on either, but enough to recognize amateurs)... with perhaps a few good moments. But whenever the debate or arguments verged on becoming too interesting or thoughtful, the movie tended to cut away to another scene of cliched, stereotypical, and frankly, boring characters. The secular professors(not just the "evil atheist") were unbelievably horrible and fit every trope of "elitist liberal" with very little in the way of realism. I don't consider myself a liberal, but most people are not two-dimensional caricatures, and generally, everyone in that movie other than the main character(and the priests) were ridiculously unpleasant. Even the "Christian girlfriend" was portrayed very unsympathetically, for all her unrealistic concerns about failing this one, freshman-level course having the potential to ruin the hero's academic life forever... really?

              It had potential, it just squandered it at every opportunity and came across to me as very cheap and lazy writing. The ending... well, enough said about that. I just really didn't care for it at all

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              • #8
                I have heard there's one coming out based on historical apologetics. I do prefer that to scientific apologetics.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LeaC View Post
                  most people are not two-dimensional caricatures
                  Have you met JimL or Jorge yet?

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                  • #10
                    I understand Kirk Cameron's Christmas movie was even worse.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jpholding View Post
                      I understand Kirk Cameron's Christmas movie was even worse.
                      No kidding. Christians are getting their heads sliced off in the Middle East, and we want to claim persecution over perceived slights over Christmas terminology?
                      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                      • #12
                        I'll be honest, though, Cameron lost all apologetic credibility with me along ago because I understand he was part of the presentation of the banana video.
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                          I'll be honest, though, Cameron lost all apologetic credibility with me along ago because I understand he was part of the presentation of the banana video.
                          And the crocoduck silliness


                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14

                            A long time ago I had seen a video he was in that made some really good points*. He also did so in a way that was interesting. Looks like wasted potential to me.


                            *It was mostly stuff about how sincerity of belief doesn't equal correctness of beliefs. It's been a long time, so there might have been some dumb stuff in there I either wouldn't have realized, or have forgotten.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              And the crocoduck silliness

                              I was aware of the stupidity of the banana argument, but I didn't know about this crocoduck thing... care to explain?
                              אָמַר לוֹ יֵשׁוּעַ: אֲנִי הַדֶּרֶךְ וְהָאֱמֶת וְהַחַיִּים. אֵין אִישׁ בָּא אֶל הָאָב אֶלָּא דַּרְכִּי
                              "Yeshua said, 'I AM the Way — and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except through me'" - Yochanan 14:6
                              כֻּלָּ֨נוּ֙ כַּצֹּ֣אן תָּעִ֔ינוּ אִ֥ישׁ לְדַרְכֹּ֖ו פָּנִ֑ינוּ וַֽיהוָה֙ הִפְגִּ֣יעַ בֹּ֔ו אֵ֖ת עֲוֹ֥ן כֻּלָּֽנוּ
                              "We all, like sheep, went astray; we turned, each one, to his own way; yet HASHEM laid on him the guilt of all of us" - Yesha'yahu 53:6

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