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Mormon Defectors are like Judas?

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  • Mormon Defectors are like Judas?

    Source: https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2014/10/joseph-smith?lang=eng


    Many of those who dismiss the work of the Restoration simply do not believe that heavenly beings speak to men on earth. Impossible, they say, that golden plates were delivered by an angel and translated by the power of God. From that disbelief, they quickly reject Joseph’s testimony, and a few unfortunately sink to discrediting the Prophet’s life and slandering his character.

    We are especially saddened when someone who once revered Joseph retreats from his or her conviction and then maligns the Prophet.

    “Studying the Church … through the eyes of its defectors,” Elder Neal A. Maxwell once said, is “like interviewing Judas to understand Jesus. Defectors always tell us more about themselves than about that from which they have departed.”


    ... You may understandably question what you hear on the news, but you need never doubt the testimony of God’s prophets.

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    Boy, the brainwashing is in full flow here...
    That's what
    - She

    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
    Stephen R. Donaldson

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    Yeah. Like leaving a cult is the same thing as selling out Jesus to get killed.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    • #3
      The problem is, of course, if they really DO hear directly from God, then there is no excuses left for the errors their prophets made, and God would not keep changing his mind about things from one time to another, like "do Polygamy" and "Polygamy is an abomination" or "Blacks are the the curse of Cain and can't be priests" and "Of course blacks can be priests, there is no mark of cain upon them"

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      • #4
        Wow.....

        But that's how my friends who left the Mormon Church in NW Houston feel.... some of their VERY CLOSE (former) friends won't even speak to them, or even LOOK at them when they run into each other at the grocery store or wherever.

        And these were very FAITHFUL Mormons who got discouraged over the lies the leadership was telling about the purchase of property for the Temple -- not even anything having to do with their doctrine.
        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          The problem is, of course, if they really DO hear directly from God, then there is no excuses left for the errors their prophets made, and God would not keep changing his mind about things from one time to another, like "do Polygamy" and "Polygamy is an abomination" or "Blacks are the the curse of Cain and can't be priests" and "Of course blacks can be priests, there is no mark of cain upon them"
          Yeah, ALWAYS TRUST our prophets, for they hear directly from God, except, of course, when they're proven wrong, in which case WE will throw them under the bus with all the REAL prophets we have ALREADY thrown under the bus!
          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Wow.....

            But that's how my friends who left the Mormon Church in NW Houston feel.... some of their VERY CLOSE (former) friends won't even speak to them, or even LOOK at them when they run into each other at the grocery store or wherever.

            And these were very FAITHFUL Mormons who got discouraged over the lies the leadership was telling about the purchase of property for the Temple -- not even anything having to do with their doctrine.
            Isn't shunning people that leave one of the signs of a cult?
            If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
              Isn't shunning people that leave one of the signs of a cult?
              Yeah, but it goes beyond this... the guy (let's call him John) was in real estate, and had some deals working with several families in their Church. They all informed John that he no longer represents them. ONE of the families actually told John, "I'm really sorry, I had no choice".
              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Yeah, but it goes beyond this... the guy (let's call him John) was in real estate, and had some deals working with several families in their Church. They all informed John that he no longer represents them. ONE of the families actually told John, "I'm really sorry, I had no choice".
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                Stephen R. Donaldson

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                  I haven't talked to him in about 6 months.... this is a good reminder for me to follow up with him. He said it was like "getting fired from my job, divorced, losing all my best friends and kicked out of my Church all at once". (not an ACTUAL divorce - he and his wife are sickeningly in love. He meant like in a nasty divorce where "everybody blames you", and they stay away)

                  Gonna make an effort to have fish tacos with him this next week!
                  "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Yeah, but it goes beyond this... the guy (let's call him John) was in real estate, and had some deals working with several families in their Church. They all informed John that he no longer represents them. ONE of the families actually told John, "I'm really sorry, I had no choice".
                    That's some serious shunning. It broke the shun-o-meter!
                    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                      That's some serious shunning. It broke the shun-o-meter!
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                      That's what
                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                      Stephen R. Donaldson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
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                        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                        • #13
                          I don't think this Mormon treatment of defectors is something that Christians have room to condemn. After all, in 1 John, John calls Christian apostates antichrists. It's a searing indictment of them.
                          "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                            I don't think this Mormon treatment of defectors is something that Christians have room to condemn. After all, in 1 John, John calls Christian apostates antichrists. It's a searing indictment of them.
                            He doesn't necessarily say to have nothing to do with them, though (unless they begin teaching falsely. At least that's how I always read 2 John 9).
                            O Gladsome Light of the Holy Glory of the Immortal Father, Heavenly, Holy, Blessed Jesus Christ! Now that we have come to the setting of the sun and behold the light of evening, we praise God Father, Son and Holy Spirit. For meet it is at all times to worship Thee with voices of praise. O Son of God and Giver of Life, therefore all the world doth glorify Thee.

                            A neat video of dead languages!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                              I don't think this Mormon treatment of defectors is something that Christians have room to condemn. After all, in 1 John, John calls Christian apostates antichrists. It's a searing indictment of them.
                              Denying Christ is nowhere near the same as denying Joseph Smith. One can leave the Mormon church, condemn their doctrines, yet still be convinced that Jesus is the Christ, so there is no true comparison.
                              That's what
                              - She

                              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                              Stephen R. Donaldson

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