Implications of a Multiverse on Christian Faith

[seer]

Strange, many cosmologists and physicists think multiverse theory has a lot to do with science, are they wrong seer?

Of course they are wrong - materialists need a faith just like everyone else... The great and powerful god Multiverse...

[shunyadragon]

Strange, many cosmologists and physicists think multiverse theory has a lot to do with science, are they wrong seer?

What are your scientific qualifications to make such judgments other than a religious agenda?

[One Bad Pig]

Strange, many cosmologists and physicists think multiverse theory has a lot to do with science, are they wrong seer?

I don't see how multiverse theory is testable; can we not only observe our universe according to the model? If it's not testable, it's not science.

[seer]

What are your scientific qualifications to make such judgments other than a religious agenda?

There is zero evidence...

[Jedidiah]

There is zero evidence...

There are some vague hints in the observations that can be seen as a suggestion to many scientists. There is no real evidence.

[seer]

There are some vague hints in the observations that can be seen as a suggestion to many scientists. There is no real evidence.

No real evidence is the key point.

[shunyadragon]

There is zero evidence...

What are your scientific qualifications to make such judgments other than a religious agenda?

[shunyadragon]

There are some vague hints in the observations that can be seen as a suggestion to many scientists. There is no real evidence.

What are your scientific qualifications to make such judgments other than a religious agenda?

[seer]

What are your scientific qualifications to make such judgments other than a religious agenda?

What are your scientific qualifications Shuny to even question me? Oh that's right - you like to make believe that you understand these things based on reading blogs.

[Jedidiah]

What are your scientific qualifications to make such judgments other than a religious agenda?

I do not have any religious agenda in this area. The Multiverse, real or not, has no bearing on my faith. You are reading stuff that just ain't there. I have read a bit about the evidence (off hand I can only think of some irregularities in background radiation, there may be more). If I am recalling correctly it is mostly implications of some approaches to string theory, and some interpretations of quantum theory that support it idea.

[JimL]

No Jim, it is about as scientific as alchemy.

Well, first off seer, alchemy was science, more of a primitive science, but science none the less. At any rate, the reason that multi-verse even exists as a theory is because the science, as it came to be understood, suggested that our universe is only one of many universes. The phycisists working on quantum theory didn't just dream this MVT up, they were led to it by the science. Actually multiverse theory came about by complete accident as the result of an experiment gone wrong. That experiment though revealed something that was baffling to scientists, and that something was the wavelike nature of the particle. We've talked of this before. The first interpretation of this effect was the copenhagen interpretation which stated that, upon observation the wave, which has instantiated within it, all possible realities, upon observation, the wave collapses, and all but the one reality, the one that is observed, vanishes. But I don't think that most physicists accept that theory any longer. I know I don't. I don't think it right because for one thing it claims that we create reality by observing reality, which is really nothing more than a guess as to what is going on, but more importantly, it denies the math. And it was that, the math, a straight forward accepting of the math that led to the multiverse theory. So, you see, multiverse theory is not the result of magic or wishful thinking analgous to your understanding of alchemy, it is a direct result of the science.

[Jedidiah]

Baloney. It is a result of one interpretation. Not in agreement with other interpretations. It is extremely iffy.

[JimL]

Baloney. It is a result of one interpretation. Not in agreement with other interpretations. It is extremely iffy.

An interpretation of what?

[Tassman]

Baloney. It is a result of one interpretation. Not in agreement with other interpretations. It is extremely iffy.

No it's nothttp://www.space.com/18811-multiple-...-theories.html

[seer]

Well, first off seer, alchemy was science, more of a primitive science, but science none the less. At any rate, the reason that multi-verse even exists as a theory is because the science, as it came to be understood, suggested that our universe is only one of many universes. The phycisists working on quantum theory didn't just dream this MVT up, they were led to it by the science. Actually multiverse theory came about by complete accident as the result of an experiment gone wrong. That experiment though revealed something that was baffling to scientists, and that something was the wavelike nature of the particle. We've talked of this before. The first interpretation of this effect was the copenhagen interpretation which stated that, upon observation the wave, which has instantiated within it, all possible realities, upon observation, the wave collapses, and all but the one reality, the one that is observed, vanishes. But I don't think that most physicists accept that theory any longer. I know I don't. I don't think it right because for one thing it claims that we create reality by observing reality, which is really nothing more than a guess as to what is going on, but more importantly, it denies the math. And it was that, the math, a straight forward accepting of the math that led to the multiverse theory. So, you see, multiverse theory is not the result of magic or wishful thinking analgous to your understanding of alchemy, it is a direct result of the science.

Well No Jim, the first thing is that materialists can't live with a creation event that has no physical explanation - there is an inherent bias. Second, like with differing string theories, that contradict each other, that all have math that is elegant - and works. And even if there is a multiverse there is no theory that gets us to an eternal past. The fact is, it is all speculation at this time.