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Originally posted by seer View PostThen you are left with determinism - you have no control over what you think, believe or do - period. So what the ISIS killers did was what nature determined them to do.
Btw, in regards to a previous post of yours, if the physical brain is that which produces immaterial thoughts, then it would also have to have an understanding of the meaning of those thoughts, otherwise it makes no sense to call them thoughts, and that would leave there no need of a distinct agency or soul in order to interpret those thoughts.
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Originally posted by seer View PostBut that is not the point Tass, if I know something "in my heart" then it was nature that determined me to believe that in your deterministic world.
And when ISIS slaughters the innocent they are no more morally responsible than when a chimp kills another chimp. After all we are just as determined as the chimp - as you so often told us.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNot in 'compatibolism,' and by the evidence some choices and decisions can be determined beyond our free will and some choices and decisions may be subject to our free willAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostIf you
It is not a debate tactic Tass, how many times have you told me that our will is no more free than the ape's? And that is the point, the ISIS fighters were doing what nature determined them to do (if you are correct). And are no more morally responsible than the chimp that kills another chimp.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostTrue, that is what the scientific research indicates, and supports the belief inn compatibilism.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostAgain true, and LFW is demonstrated as false.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostProve it.
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Originally posted by seer View PostBut it is still all determined in your world. This doesn't change a thing.
It is not a debate tactic Tass, how many times have you told me that our will is no more free than the ape's? And that is the point, the ISIS fighters were doing what nature determined them to do (if you are correct). And are no more morally responsible than the chimp that kills another chimp.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostScience does not prove things. Neither can you offer a proof of LFW. It is simply a Theistic assertion to justify you religious agenda.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View Postfeel that we can choose what we do, our understanding of the molecular basis of biology shows that all biological processes are governed by the laws of physics and chemistry and therefore are as determined as anything else in the universe.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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