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Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by seer View PostWell thank you. And you do know that the abolition movement in England and the US was populated largely by Christians - correct? And since when do you speak for all atheist? Do you speak for the atheists in China? North Korea? Cuba?
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostIt's also completely unproven.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostGiven that sin is defined as transgressing against the express will of God - yes, I'd say that it is justified from the Christian perspective to say that homosexual relationships are sinful. Of course, "sin" is a matter to be dealt with in-house. There's no mandate - and no justification - for imposing Christian rules on people who don't claim to be Christian.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo, I say that they know that what they are doing is immoral. No matter how they try to justify it.
First, they do not think that they are immoral. As I said earlier Christians have tried hiding the lifestyle of homosexuals to terrible results that are actually immoral themselves if you have any standard of morality.
You have no basis to say they are immoral it is just your opinion. And sadly it is not even your own formulated opinion someone has to tell you what to think.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostGiven that sin is defined as transgressing against the express will of God - yes, I'd say that it is justified from the Christian perspective to say that homosexual relationships are sinful. Of course, "sin" is a matter to be dealt with in-house. There's no mandate - and no justification - for imposing Christian rules on people who don't claim to be Christian.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostWere they not in a concerted effort to teach OUR children that it isn't sinful, then you may have a point. But when every corner of secular society is hammering the message home, the PARENT ends up looking the fool for teaching biblical truths.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by AlecWelsh View PostTwo things:
First, they do not think that they are immoral. As I said earlier Christians have tried hiding the lifestyle of homosexuals to terrible results that are actually immoral themselves if you have any standard of morality.
You have no basis to say they are immoral it is just your opinion. And sadly it is not even your own formulated opinion someone has to tell you what to think.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo in a representative republic we are not allowed to influence the laws of the land according to our beliefs? We should not support laws against murder, rape, theft, fraud, etc... because they spring from our religious beliefs?
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Originally posted by AlecWelsh View PostNo this is not true.
Your ignorance or refusal to accept evidence and proof does not dictate reality. You simply live with delusional beliefs.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostChildren can be taught that Christianity demands a different standard from secular society, and that Christians are expected to adhere to standards that God requires of people who claim to be his disciples. It is a more difficult path than just teaching them that things are wrong - but they should be taught fully anyway.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by seer View PostLet's be clear Alex, you have no standard of morality except what you invented in your own mind, or what you borrowed from someone else, so it is completely subjective.
If that is the case then all you have is opinion - so why is your opinion more valid or correct than mine?
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYou've obviously never had a child attend public school in the US.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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