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Atheism And Moral Progress
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Originally posted by seer View Post
But your team has a mental intention to win. There is no such intention in biology.America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Of course biology doesn't care. To speak as if it cares is anthropomorphizing, which we all tend to do from time to time.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostWhich is completely irrelevant. Do I have to (again) quote my own earlier statement? "Biology (i.e, natural selection) always aims for survival (as far as a natural process can be said to 'aim' at anything)".Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostStill wrong.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostA correct assertion.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
So your analogy doesn't work. Biology does not aim or seek anything. It doesn't care, intend or act. Some species just get lucky and others, most, don't.
(Of course, some just get unlucky, and have their environment destroyed by some catastrophe, like asteroids, massive volcanoes, or humanity.)
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Originally posted by seer View Post
How exactly? How is it anymore than some species get lucky and others don't? What else is there?
America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
And why isn't intellectual capacity just as instinctual as anything else?
Well obviously it didn't work well for 99% of all species. It is more correct to say that some species get lucky and others don't. There is no over all biological aim for survival.
The question is why is that immoral? It certainly isn't for the tribes that win.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
If by "some species just get lucky" you include that some species just happen to develop adaptations that make them more likely to survive in the environment they inhabit, then I guess that's true.
(Of course, some just get unlucky, and have their environment destroyed by some catastrophe, like asteroids, massive volcanoes, or humanity.)Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View PostDo you know nothing about evolution? About Darwin's theory? About survival of the fittest? About Malthus?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
It’s “immoral” because society says it is. You seem to think that there are absolute moral values floating around in a realm of Platonic forms that have to be adhered to. There is no good reason to think that ‘morality’ exists separate from man-made communal rules of behavior. Morals have demonstrably evolved and varied from culture to culture over time – including in religious cultures.
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Yes, and I know that there is no direction in evolution, no aim, no decision for or against survival. Some species just get lucky and other don't.
America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.
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