Originally posted by seer
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If morality is not subjective to the individual or to the culture then where do these moral truths exist independently of our subjective views?
My view remains as it always has that morality and ethics are neither subjective, nor objective, because it has both subjective and objective attributes. I do not believe 'moral truths' exist from the human perspective, and there is no evidence of this. Morality exists fundamentally as a dominant part of the underlying foundation of human nature that evolved to meet the needs of survival of a social intelligent omnivore, and not in the variable subjective views of individuals, nor any one society or culture.
Science does reject philosophies that propose the subjective selfish moral and ethical choices of individuals have a meaningful impact on the nature of the morality of the larger society or culture. Morality and ethics evolve for the survival of the family, community, society, culture and ultimately the species, and NOT the survival of individuals.
And yes, science can tell us that ethics developed thus and so, but it has no opinion as to what is actually right or wrong.
Yes, men can be kind and cooperate, but they can also be cruel and selfish - both are part of our natural make up.
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