Opinions on Billy Graham

[Cow Poke]

Your time would be better spent teaching a herd of pigs to sing the Hallelujah Chorus.

[The Remonstrant]

anthropocentric: man-/human-centred. God has no place in your world view.

[JimL]

Christians and non-Christians alike can fail to assess themselves accurately and have an inaccurate, inflated opinion of their actual moral condition. Self-righteousness is a common manifestation of pride. As gross of a sin as it is, even saints are not exempt from falling into this snare. Scripture unambiguously declares that God resists proud persons but grants grace to those who are humble.*

The most sanctified persons have been changed by the grace of God. They recognise their great need for a redeemer. Those who are consciously rejecting Jesus Christ and his claim as Lord and Saviour will be left to stand without a mediator between them and God on Judgement Day. The criterion for a positive outcome is a lifetime of flawless obedience to the law of God. How do you believe that you will fare? The standard for morality is set by God, not humankind. Your only hope is that the God you currently reject does not exist. I hope better things for you.


* See Proverbs 3.34 LXX; James 4.6; 1 Peter 5.5.

And perhaps what we consider to be a persons actual moral condition has nothing to do with christ or religion. If you really stopped to think about it, the premise of your religion, i.e. of sin and redemption for believers, makes no sense. If you think it does make sense, perhaps you could point out the logic in it for us nonbelievers?

[The Remonstrant]

And perhaps the fact that some people are what we consider to be morally better than others has nothing to do with [C]hrist or religion at all.

Christians and non-Christians alike can fail to assess themselves accurately and have an inaccurate, inflated opinion of their actual moral condition. Self-righteousness is a common manifestation of pride. As gross of a sin as it is, even saints are not exempt from falling into this snare. Scripture unambiguously declares that God resists proud persons but grants grace to those who are humble.*

The most sanctified persons have been changed by the grace of God. They recognise their great need for a redeemer. Those who are consciously rejecting Jesus Christ and his claim as Lord and Saviour will be left to stand without a mediator between them and God on Judgement Day. The criterion for a positive outcome is a lifetime of flawless obedience to the law of God. How do you believe that you will fare? The standard for morality is set by God, not humankind. Your only hope is that the God you currently reject does not exist. I hope better things for you.


* See Proverbs 3.34 LXX; James 4.6; 1 Peter 5.5.

[JimL]

progressive sanctification in Protestant/evangelical spheres.

Similarly, as children of the devil vary in their moral corruption and likeness to the spiritual father whom they emulate (wittingly or unwittingly), the tendency of evil to advance collectively and individually may be labelled progressive degeneration or progressive depravity

And perhaps the fact that some people are what we consider to be morally better than others has nothing to do with christ or religion at all.

[RumTumTugger]

...and now he went and started ANOTHER thread on banning guns!

well maybe he thought we'd derailed this one enough.

[Cow Poke]

...and now he went and started ANOTHER thread on banning guns!

[Sparko]

I knew you had done it recently, but....

...and now he went and started ANOTHER thread on banning guns!

[Cow Poke]

did that pages ago when he promised he was leaving then...

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post520447

I knew you had done it recently, but....

[RumTumTugger]

Bartender? Times two, please.

ETA: Fourth time through, it finally parsed.

I will not post what I was going to.

You said what I was trying to say with more grace than I was going to.

Thank you.

The original was far more amusing.

drat note to self never post when you have not had your first cup of tea.

[Sparko]

Time again for....

did that pages ago when he promised he was leaving then...

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post520447

[Cow Poke]

Will you PLEASE stop doing that? Adrift is right. This is just an idiotic debate tactic to pretend to take the "high road" and act like you are the better person for walking away, when in fact it is because you don't have an actual rebuttal, and think by saying this you can end the discussion. Yet when people do take the "last word" you immediately jump right back into the fray.

Just stop it.

Time again for....

[Cow Poke]

I actually think it's much more interesting to watch you tell him what he really meant.

[Sparko]

And with that - I'll sign off from this discussion. It has essentially become a string of ad homs with no content - so I see no purpose in continuing. Frankly, this time I won't be reading subsequent posts either. So have at it.

Will you PLEASE stop doing that? Adrift is right. This is just an idiotic debate tactic to pretend to take the "high road" and act like you are the better person for walking away, when in fact it is because you don't have an actual rebuttal, and think by saying this you can end the discussion. Yet when people do take the "last word" you immediately jump right back into the fray.

Just stop it.

[Zymologist]

So what was your interpretation of the post?

I actually think it's much more interesting to watch you tell him what he really meant.