Problems with Noah

[whag]

By the way, I was asked in the other thread what sort of reading I prefer for Noah. I'm still working it out myself; my own view of inspiration here needs refining. I remember reading an online discussion involving Paul Seely, who has written on this subject from a Christian perspective, and he conjectured there was a local flood at some point in the Black Sea area that became a kernel for the account.

Thanks, KG. I don't doubt there was a kernel. The huge extrapolation from the mere occurrence of a geologic event is what I question.

[jordanriver]

Thanks, KG. I don't doubt there was a kernel. The huge extrapolation from the mere occurrence of a geologic event is what I question.

OTOH, how do so many cultures from around the globe have a flood account

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

[whag]

OTOH, how do so many cultures from around the globe have a flood account

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

The same reason so many cultures have gods similar in personality and intent. Hyperactive agency detection is one of humanity's tropes.

Perhaps, like KG said, there's a kernel of truth to the story, but the extrapolation of divine intent from a large-scale geological event is where it gets seriously wonky. We have all these gods regretting the creation of human beings who take woefully inefficient measures to reboot humanity. It doesn't make a lick of sense.

[Psychic Missile]

You don't think anybody here cares about the veracity of such things?

I don't think Biblical literalists care.

[JonathanL]

I don't think Biblical literalists care.

I don't think you care about representing Biblical literalists correctly.

[Psychic Missile]

I don't know anyone here who doesn't care whether or not what they believe is true.

Anyone who believes the flood story actually happened would qualify.

[JonathanL]

Anyone who believes the flood story actually happened would qualify.

In other words, anyone who doesn't believe the same way you do doesn't care about truth.

[Psychic Missile]

I don't think you care about representing Biblical literalists correctly.

Okay.

In other words, anyone who doesn't believe the same way you do doesn't care about truth.

That's not true.

[jordanriver]

Anyone who believes the flood story actually happened would qualify.

if its any consolation, I am in the minority with position, its not your fault if you cannot know/believe flood account

[Psychic Missile]

if its any consolation, I am in the minority with position, its not your fault if you cannot know/believe flood account

Thanks I guess.

[whag]

if its any consolation, I am in the minority with position, its not your fault if you cannot know/believe flood account

Perhaps some are inclined to believe dubious stories. The disinclined can't help but do the opposite.

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."

--Galileo

[jordanriver]

Perhaps some are inclined to believe dubious stories. The disinclined can't help but do the opposite.

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."

--Galileo

if its any consolation, I am in the minority with position, its not your fault if you cannot know/believe flood account

[whag]

if its any consolation, I am in the minority with position, its not your fault if you cannot know/believe flood account

I take this to mean you're naturally inclined while I am naturally disinclined.

Feel free to express your minority position any time.

[jordanriver]

I take this to mean you're naturally inclined while I am naturally disinclined.

Feel free to express your minority position any time.

inclined??
boyhowdie, you sure don't know me.

I wasn't 'looking' for no gods when it happened

[whag]

inclined??
boyhowdie, you sure don't know me.

I wasn't 'looking' for no gods when it happened

When what happened?