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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI do not consider YEC fundamentalism just a USA problem. The biggest bucks in Evangelism of the world is in YEC fundamentalism. The exception is Western Europe, China, India and Southeast Asia.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View Postin my opinion all laws and all gods are man made. Keep moving forward but learn from your failures.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Postfify
Who is God anyway?
It turns out that God is what other people tell you God is. While you may believe that you can have direct experience of God, that experience is always coloured by what you have already been taught about God and therefore God is essentially people talking to each other about God. There is nothing else. You cannot conceive of the Christian God ex nihilo because the known facts about the world do not lead you to Him. This is really telling us that whatever God is, if He exists, He is definitely not the Christian God. Christianity is its Scripture and nothing else – “the letter that kills” (2 Corinthians 3:6).
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIn fact, you fixed it for yourself, not me. But I appreciate the effort.
Who is God anyway?
It turns out that God is what other people tell you God is.
While you may believe that you can have direct experience of God, that experience is always coloured by what you have already been taught about God and therefore God is essentially people talking to each other about God.
There is nothing else. You cannot conceive of the Christian God ex nihilo
because the known facts about the world do not lead you to Him.
This is really telling us that whatever God is, if He exists, He is definitely not the Christian God.
Christianity is its Scripture and nothing else – “the letter that kills” (2 Corinthians 3:6).That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYeah, that verse doesn't say what you think it says.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYeah, that verse doesn't say what you think it says.
Romans 7:6 - But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.
Likewise, if we take Paul seriously, the obsolescence of Christian scripture needs to be recognised in our time.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostPaul is promoting the idea to the gentiles that they are not to be bound by the requirements of Jewish scripture.
Romans 7:6 - But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.
Likewise, if we take Paul seriously, the obsolescence of Christian scripture needs to be recognised in our time.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostLike I said OBP, the two are not mutually exclusive. I think his above post offers at at least some evidence of this.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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