Is God Immoral?

[seer]

Because they harm innocent humans. Why do you approve of the killing of babies?

Well our culture condones the killing of the unborn. Are you saying that your moral sense is better, more correct than the majority?

[jordanriver]

If Bible God is real as Biblically described (knows every possible outcome), and is "good"
then anything He does is justified.

...if He is just made up, then the Ancient Hebrews just made up excuse for taking land.

[whag]

No... God can give an ass the ability to talk - just look at you! Sorry, I couldn't resist!

If Bible God is real as Biblically described (knows every possible outcome), and is "good"
then anything He does is justified.

...if He is just made up, then the Ancient Hebrews just made up excuse for taking land.

I have no further comment if all you're arguing is divine command--which is best summed up "divine command."

[Enjolras]

Well our culture condones the killing of the unborn. Are you saying that your moral sense is better, more correct than the majority?

I think you know my answer based upon previous interactions. If the majority thinks it's ok to harm humans, the majority is wrong.

How do you answer my question?

[Enjolras]

If Bible God is real as Biblically described (knows every possible outcome), and is "good"
then anything He does is justified.

...if He is just made up, then the Ancient Hebrews just made up excuse for taking land.

If God told you to torture babies for his pleasure, would you do it?

If not, would your refusal to do so be considered immoral and worthy of his wrath?

[jordanriver]

If God told you to torture babies for his pleasure, would you do it?

If not, would your refusal to do so be considered immoral and worthy of his wrath?

Probably be another sin of disobedience.
Add to another 600 or so laws I probably don't keep.

[jordanriver]

I have no further comment if all you're arguing is divine command--which is best summed up "divine command."

I thought the thread was the morality of God in the first place.

are you changing it to morality of people claiming to be followers of Bible-God

[Enjolras]

Probably be another sin of disobedience.
Add to another 600 or so laws I probably don't keep.

But you would consider yourself to be immoral and worthy of wrath for not torturing babies. Ok. Thank you for being honest.

[jordanriver]

But you would consider yourself to be immoral and worthy of wrath for not torturing babies. Ok. Thank you for being honest.

Bible seems to indicate we are all immoral and worthy of wrath.

...."we all got it coming, kid" William Muny ? (Clint Eastwood ...'Unforgiven')

[whag]

No... God can give an ass the ability to talk - just look at you! Sorry, I couldn't resist!

If Bible God is real as Biblically described (knows every possible outcome), and is "good"
then anything He does is justified.

...if He is just made up, then the Ancient Hebrews just made up excuse for taking land.

I thought the thread was the morality of God in the first place.

are you changing it to morality of people claiming to be followers of Bible-God

The thread is about seer's admission he can't morally justify biblical atrocities. I don't believe those events were ordered by a god, so I'm not arguing from that basis.

The real question is why you feel compelled to believe it literal and defend it thus. Why not simp!y acknowledge it wasn't a divine command?

[whag]

Bible seems to indicate we are all immoral and worthy of wrath.

...."we all got it coming, kid" William Muny ? (Clint Eastwood ...'Unforgiven')

Babies have it coming?

[jordanriver]

But you would consider yourself to be immoral and worthy of wrath for not torturing babies. Ok. Thank you for being honest.

? did it call for baby torturing?
I thought it was for a quick kill -- send to God

...unlike the passing through fire pagan practice of the Amalekite and Midianite and Phoenician culture s

[Enjolras]

Bible seems to indicate we are all immoral and worthy of wrath.

...."we all got it coming, kid" William Muny ? (Clint Eastwood ...'Unforgiven')

In the scenario I gave the babies were not tortured for anything they did, but for God's entertainment. So even if one were to grant the absurd contention that babies somehow deserve torture, that would be irrelevant.

[jordanriver]

Babies have it coming?

Only if they grow up.

....all have sinexample.

But bible indicates babies pass go, and go straight to heaven (David and Bathsheba's baby example)

[Enjolras]

? did it call for baby torturing?
I thought it was for a quick kill -- send to God

...unlike the passing through fire pagan practice of the Amalekite and Midianite and Phoenician culture s

I wrote 'torture,' not 'kill.'