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Last edited by 37818; 06-12-2018, 07:59 AM.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostWell based on that canonization view none of them were authentic. It was the irregular churches which caused those problems of false holy scriptures and disputed the authentic texts. Holy Scripture was Holy Scripture when it was written or it was never holy scripture. The initial church which first received the document knew the writer who God used to write said Holy Scripture.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThere is no evidence of original unedited scriptures in either the New nor Old Testament.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostWhere are the originals?. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostWell based on that canonization view none of them were authentic. It was the irregular churches which caused those problems of false holy scriptures and disputed the authentic texts. Holy Scripture was Holy Scripture when it was written or it was never holy scripture. The initial church which first received the document knew the writer who God used to write said Holy Scripture.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostBut it wan'r written until late, as has been discussed. The early gospel message was spread orally and was almost certainly embellished as it passed from person to person.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWe can easily reconstruct the autographs from the thousands of copies and mentions we do have.
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External objective evidence is required to support your argument.Last edited by shunyadragon; 06-14-2018, 08:41 PM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWe can easily reconstruct the autographs from the thousands of copies and mentions we do have.
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The United Bible Societies, in their translation from original texts say there are more than two thousand places where alternative readings of any significance survived in good manuscripts and then chose between them From the variety of texts which we have, any standard involves loss: it does not, and cannot, give us exactly what Paul or the Evangelists originally wrote. R. L. Fox. The Unauthorized Version: Truth and Fiction in the Bible,
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostWhat is the evidence that the documents were in fact written late and not by the named authors identified to the [New Testament gospel] documents?
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThis is a circular argument based on internal evidence of the NT and faith, and not including the external evidence of the history of the gospels as well as most books of the Bible.
External objective evidence is required to support your argument.
Sometimes I think you are like one of those magic 8 balls that just spews out random canned responses from time to time.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThis is a circular argument based on internal evidence of the NT and faith, and not including the external evidence of the history of the gospels as well as most books of the Bible.
External objective evidence is required to support your argument....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postthere is nothing circular about it. and nothing about faith either. It is scientific. Textual criticism. Did you even read the article?
Sometimes I think you are like one of those magic 8 balls that just spews out random canned responses from time to time.
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