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  • #511
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Some manage to take it to extraordinary levels of nonsense.
    They do indeed...
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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    • #512
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      You really REALLY don't understand Christianity, Jim.
      Well prove me wrong, CP. I mean seriously, these simple assertions of yours are basically meaningless.

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      • #513
        Originally posted by JimL View Post
        If you are debating the issue with me....
        You don't debate, Jim - you just keep on with the childish insults, false accusations, and juvenile nonsense. When you're ready to grow up and have a decent adult conversation, let me know.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #514
          Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Well prove me wrong, CP. I mean seriously, these simple assertions of yours are basically meaningless.
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          Every once in a while you manage to get something right (which is why I gave you an 'Amen' the other day), but you tend to mostly get Christianity badly wrong.
          Last edited by One Bad Pig; 05-02-2018, 04:16 PM.
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          • #515
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
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            Every once in a while you manage to get something right (which is why I gave you an 'Amen' the other day), but you tend to mostly get Christianity badly wrong.
            Yes, well when CP, or you, merely tell me that I have it wrong, without backing it up as to in what sense I have it wrong, then I'll have to assume that it's y'all who don't know what you're talking about.

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            • #516
              Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Yes, well when CP, or you, merely tell me that I have it wrong, without backing it up as to in what sense I have it wrong, then I'll have to assume that it's y'all who don't know what you're talking about.
              You almost NEVER back anything up, Jim. Should we assume the same about you?
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              • #517
                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                That's my point. Do you all have comprehension problems. Assuming there is any truth to the story at all, the point was that the disciples wouldn't have believed in the resurrection, or in other words that Jesus was god, without seeing Jesus physical resurrected body for themselves. Jesus obviously knew that, which is why his resurrected self had to appear before them, to show them. So, you think that Jesus is going to condemn the rest of us for not believing, when his own disciples couldn't believe?
                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                • #518
                  Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  So, you don't believe babies inherited their evil nature from A+E? Why do you say they are innocent? More importantly you are contradicting the passage you just cited. That whoever believeth in him should not perish, but he that believeth not is already condemned!
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • #519
                    I really have a problem with that since it's nowhere mentioned in the Bible. I think people hold to it for emotional reasons (not wanting to envision babies in hell). People are certainly awfully dogmatic about it for something nowhere mentioned in Scripture. Since I'm an annihilationist, I don't have a problem with holding to the idea that only those who accept Christ get eternal life, because I don't have to deal with the idea of babies being eternally tormented.
                    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                    • #520
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      I really have a problem with that since it's nowhere mentioned in the Bible. I think people hold to it for emotional reasons (not wanting to envision babies in hell). People are certainly awfully dogmatic about it for something nowhere mentioned in Scripture. Since I'm an annihilationist, I don't have a problem with holding to the idea that only those who accept Christ get eternal life, because I don't have to deal with the idea of babies being eternally tormented.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #521
                        Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        No, the reason that you didn't offer any explanations is because you don't care that there are no sensible/logical explanations to offer, you and Sparko, like many believers, are in to deep to actually concern yourselves with whether or not what you believe makes sense, or complies with logic.
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                        • #522
                          Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                          How often I have said pretty much the same thing...
                          But I actually AM a mind reader.

                          JimL is not. Not sure he can even read his own mind.

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                            • #524
                              Don't know the passage off hand, but Jesus also said that heaven was within little children. "In such as these is the Kingdom of heaven." In other words heaven is not a place, it's a mind set.

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                              • #525
                                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                Don't know the passage off hand, but Jesus also said that heaven was within little children. "In such as these is the Kingdom of heaven." In other words heaven is not a place, it's a mind set.
                                Maybe you should go look for it. Reading the bible might do you some good.

                                I will wait here for you. Nobody help him. Jim can do it himself. He is a big boy.

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