The �Sermons� of Jordan Peterson

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There are no well-known intellectuals in Christianity today. The purported ones like Plantinga, Craig, Zacharias, and Moreland all have some kind of weird controversy in their pasts in which they stumbled on this issue. Heck, you even have R.C. Sproul who has affirmed his belief in young earth.

So Craig is not well known in your list.

[whag]

So Craig is not well known in your list.

Read the 2nd sentence again.

[Jedidiah]

The Flood myth is pretty foundational as a story, but MacArthur gets it wrong almost immediately. He says that anyone who calls it local essentially calls God a liar:

I have been a Christian for over 40 years and have been recognized by two Baptist churches as a Christian. I certainly do not call God a liar by interpreting Genesis differently than Jorge. So MacArthur is not scripture and he can be wrong.

[Jedidiah]

Don't play the fool. It is quite possible to lack interest in something you know you will not agree with based on other things than fear.

[whag]

I don't want to hear it because he is not a Christian preacher, and therefore what he preaches is not important to me.

Lemme tell you something. If that was a local flood, then God didn't tell him the truth...Has there ever been another local flood? Of course, there are plenty of local floods. It was a lie if the flood was local. There have been tens of thousands of local floods. We read about 'em all the time. We're gonna read about some this spring, in which people will die...When God said, "I'm making a promise never, ever to destroy people again in a flood like this," He couldn't have been referring to a local flood. That happens all the time...

[whag]

Don't play the fool. It is quite possible to lack interest in something you know you will not agree with based on other things than fear.

[whag]

I have been a Christian for over 40 years and have been recognized by two Baptist churches as a Christian. I certainly do not call God a liar by interpreting Genesis differently than Jorge. So MacArthur is not scripture and he can be wrong.

[mossrose]

Please show me the quote where I used the words "fear or "afraid" or anything like them.

Otherwise you are a liar.

[Jedidiah]

And yet you seem to think that the foolish accusation of being afraid is fine for you to use against her. Can you spell hypocrisy? (Inverse fear - now that is foolish)

[whag]

Please show me the quote where I used the words "fear or "afraid" or anything like them.

Otherwise you are a liar.

[mossrose]

The thought of you being afraid never crossed my mind. I meant, and the passage in Timothy points it out, that you and others will not endure sound doctrine because it doesn't fit your idea of what should be preached in churches. You aren't interested in what scripture says.

I should have known you were simply trolling.

So everything you said about me using the word fear was a lie, and now you admit it.

[NorrinRadd]

Churches are about:
1. Worshiping God
2. Fellowship with other Christians
3. Spreading the Gospel
4. Teaching morals and life lessons and the teachings of Jesus (sermons)

If you want intellectually stimulating, you should go to a seminary. Although most churches do usually have more in-depth bible studies in small groups or on Wednesdays.

This is roughly my view. I think it has to do with concession to the size of churches today compared to 2000-ish years ago, and to the (spoken or otherwise) demands that a full service fit into 90 minutes or less.



See above. I don't really know how things work in "traditional" or "mainline" churches, but in the churches I've attended, there is often "Sunday School" before the main service, and a mid-week "Bible study." Those tend to be more in-depth. The "main" service is geared to a more "general" audience that wants to get in and out in 90 minutes or less.

[rogue06]

The Flood myth is pretty foundational as a story

Christians don't build their faith upon the historicity of the Flood but rather on Christ's message of redemption and salvation.

[demi-conservative]

You know, you are starting to sound less like a Russian and more like a caveman.

Me Tarzan! Tarzan like Jane!

Third person is interesting experiment!

[Sparko]

They might toss out a few facts and opinions but they are not going to give a TED talk on the matter in a Sunday morning sermon. You were talking about indepth intellectual lectures.