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Originally posted by JimL View PostObviously I understand that the gospels have different authors, that's why I asked the question "why didn't the other authors mention such a remarkable event?" This, if it were true, would be quite the ommision for an historian to omit. Besides, they did all write about the same things, the same events,they all wrote about the crucifixion, but only Matthew wrote about the earthquakes and the resurrected saints at the crucifixion.
They all talk about Jesus, which is the real focus of the NT, Jim.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat doesn't explain why such a real life event such as earthquakes and many saints climbing out of their graves wasn't mentioned by the other three gospel authors, not to mention secular historians of the time. Why do you think they neglected to mention it?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostOh, I don't think anyone here is angry either. I do think that people who troll want to make people angry though.
On a side point, what is up with the phrase "nothing burger"? Where did that come from all of a sudden? I hear people saying it all the time now. It's the strangest expression.
about 1:46 is when the phrase is usedLast edited by RumTumTugger; 12-30-2017, 03:44 PM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI've wondered the same thing about nothingburger. I've seen it used by Hillary describing the email scandal, but it apparently goes way back to the '50's and '60's. Hollywood gossip columnist Louella Parsons used it to describe a person or idea that's essentially a whole lot of nothing. Then it was picked up by Cosmopolitan editor Helen Gurley Brown.
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View PostSee my reply to AdriftThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat doesn't explain why such a real life event such as earthquakes and many saints climbing out of their graves wasn't mentioned by the other three gospel authors, not to mention secular historians of the time. Why do you think they neglected to mention it?I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by psstein View PostLikening the resurrection body to zombification is misinformed at best and dishonest at worst.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSince you're so interested in what each of the Gospel writers wrote, here's a fairly good comparison showing that John wrote about a whole bunch of things the others did not, and some things were recorded by all four. The synoptic Gospel writers often wrote about things John didn't reference at all. Luke wrote about some things none of the others did, as did Matthew and Mark.
They all talk about Jesus, which is the real focus of the NT, Jim.
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Jim, why did you start this thread using the word "zombies"?
Frankly you know we consider it blasphemous when referring to Christ. You are not engaging honestly here.
Give me one good reason why I shouldn't delete this thread and point you for blasphemy.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostTo start, it needs to be noted that the notion of some sort strict separation of secular and sectarian is totally missing in the ancient world. There are no strictly "secular" sources -- none. There are of course non-Biblical sources but none of them would qualify as being "secular"
Now, very, very little exists in way of contemporary sources from the middle of the first century A.D. As the historian Edward Musgrave Blaiklock put it: "From the forties A.D., through the sixties, very little survives. Bookends set a foot apart on this desk where I write would enclose the works from those significant years." IOW, the reason we have a lack of extant non-biblical documentation is due to nothing more than a lack of extant non-biblical information -- about anything.
And keep in mind that we don't have any contemporary accounts concerning Hannibal which in your world means he never existed and everything he did is some sort of fairy tale. The same goes for the assassination of Caesar since it wasn't until a half a century later that we have the first written account.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's a revival of the term - it was used back when I was a kid, just not as frequently. Of course, I didn't have internetzweb back then.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostJim, why did you start this thread using the word "zombies"?
Frankly you know we consider it blasphemous when referring to Christ. You are not engaging honestly here.
Originally posted by mossrose View PostGive me one good reason why I shouldn't delete this thread and point you for blasphemy.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostBecause I made two posts that I've bookmarked for later use.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostBut we had that cool telephone made from two cans, two buttons and a length of stringThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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