Redemption: Being saved or born again

[NorrinRadd]

If you actually read the Bible, Jim, you'd know that, after death, there is no repenting.

Scripture Verse: Hebrews 9

²⁷ And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

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And there is no purgatory out of which somebody can rescue you.

I thought everyone "got out" of Purgatory once they were sufficiently "purged."

[Cow Poke]

I thought everyone "got out" of Purgatory once they were sufficiently "purged."

Ya can't get out of something that never existed.

However, I did enjoy some really good skiing at Purgatory in Colorado!

[Cow Poke]

So, then, you're contradicting yourself. Which of your answers is the right one, the first answer you gave me, or this one?

Your failure to understand does not create a contradiction, Jim.

[JimL]

Your failure to understand does not create a contradiction, Jim.

CP, anyone can see you gave two different and opposite answer's to the same question. So which is the correct answer? Do you get to repent, at the "judgement" after you die, or is that too late?

[Cow Poke]

CP, anyone can see you gave two different and opposite answer's to the same question.

Did not. But I apologize I didn't dummy it down enough so you could understand it.

I would ask you to show me the "two different answers", but I'm sure that's beyond your cognitive ability.

So which is the correct answer? Do you get to repent, at the "judgement" after you die, or is that too late?

Wow, such ignorance....

We are saved from our sin by what Jesus did on the cross, and our faith and trust in Him.
If we commit a sin before we die, and do not have an opportunity to repent, we are still "covered by His blood".

There is no opportunity for repentance AFTER we die.

Now, I realize I used words with more than two syllables, so if I need to break it down further, just let me know.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

So, then, you're contradicting yourself. Which of your answers is the right one, the first answer you gave me, or this one?

The refrain to "just read the Bible" comes across as an excuse for the inability to actually address certain points that have been raised.

The other question of course being, which Bible and which translation do they have in mind?

[Cow Poke]

The refrain to "just read the Bible" comes across as an excuse for the inability to actually address certain points that have been raised.

Actually, darlin', I addressed the points.

The other question of course being, which Bible and which translation do they have in mind?

PLEASE put a space between the end of your sentence and your goofy emoticon. PLEASE?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Actually, darlin', I addressed the points.

Which bible and which translation do you advise JimL to read?

[Cow Poke]

Which bible and which translation do you advise JimL to read?

He probably needs to start with one with lots of pictures, and few multi-syllable words.

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I'll even purchase it for him and have it delivered to his door, like I did for Punkinhead (though hers was a "big girl" version).

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

He probably needs to start with one with lots of pictures, and few multi-syllable words.

my first Bible.png
I'll even purchase it for him and have it delivered to his door, like I did for Punkinhead (though hers was a "big girl" version).

An inane comment in reply to a serious question.

[Cow Poke]

An inane comment in reply to a serious question.

Actually, it was a fitting response to a nosy old biddy meddling in somebody else's business, and appropriate for Jim's lack of comprehension of anything Biblical.
He is, however, quite blessed to have somebody of your caliber trying to help him out of the holes he keeps digging.

[Sparko]

Did not. But I apologize I didn't dummy it down enough so you could understand it.

I would ask you to show me the "two different answers", but I'm sure that's beyond your cognitive ability.



Wow, such ignorance....

We are saved from our sin by what Jesus did on the cross, and our faith and trust in Him.
If we commit a sin before we die, and do not have an opportunity to repent, we are still "covered by His blood".

There is no opportunity for repentance AFTER we die.

Now, I realize I used words with more than two syllables, so if I need to break it down further, just let me know.

JimL is confusing those who are saved and those who are not. Saved people are covered by Jesus' sacrifice for all sins, past present and future. Repentance just restores our good relationship with God. Like in a family. If you 'sin' against your parents, there is a strain on that relationship until you say you are sorry, but at no point are you in danger of being kicked out of the family.

But those who are not saved are not covered by Jesus sacrifice. Merely repenting does not save them until they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. And if they wait till they stand before Jesus to repent and accept him it is too late. You have to choose "sides" before you die.

[Cow Poke]

...Repentance just restores our good relationship with God. Like in a family. If you 'sin' against your parents....

Here's where I like to clarify - our "relationship" is not damaged, but our "fellowship" is. Just like when I "sin" against my parents, they are still my parents and I am still their kid - that "relationship" doesn't change.
What does change (and I know that's what you're intending) is our "fellowship". That's what gets broken and needs to be restored.

In my opinion, anyway.

[Sparko]

Here's where I like to clarify - our "relationship" is not damaged, but our "fellowship" is. Just like when I "sin" against my parents, they are still my parents and I am still their kid - that "relationship" doesn't change.
What does change (and I know that's what you're intending) is our "fellowship". That's what gets broken and needs to be restored.

In my opinion, anyway.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Actually, it was a fitting response to a nosy old biddy meddling in somebody else's business,

In case it had slipped your mind.

I am free to post anywhere on any topic any time I want.

[Scorn] Or is that only applicable to you?