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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI like Mythbusters -- even if Adam is a twit.
Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostBut he keeps repeating himself so he probably thinks that's substantiation.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
So you have no evidence that they lived in tents, yet you reject archeological evidence that they lived in permanent dwellings? Can you explain that?
Can you do that, please?
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Originally posted by eider View Post
Yes. The archeological evidence suggests one or two buildings from the 1st century. Now please show me your evidence that buildings were the general habitations in, say, 1 AD.
Can you do that, please?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...-a9470716.html
The new archaeological investigation – the largest ever carried out into Roman period Nazareth – has revealed that Jesus’s hometown is likely to have been considerably bigger than previously thought. It probably had a population of up to 1,000 (rather than just being a small-to-medium sized village of 100-500, as previously thought).
The archaeological evidence suggests a fair sized population, significantly larger that would comprise a (by 20-21st century definition) hamlet - and perhaps as much as a good sized village.
https://bibleinterp.arizona.edu/arti...-first-century
In general, archaeological evidence for the early first-century settlement contains nothing inconsistent with the presentation of Nazareth in the Gospels. If Nazareth were a Jewish village functioning as a center for surrounding agricultural communities and associated with craft-working and quarrying, then this was exactly the sort of place where one might expect there to be a synagogue, whether as a building or public assembly, like that mentioned in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark, and where one might find a τέκτων (tekton), a craftsman, a term used for Jesus and Joseph in the same Gospels.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/listen...gist-explains/
There are geographical, environmental explanations for Nazareth being so small, she said. Nazareth was set in a small basin surrounded by hills and wasn’t very accessible. It did have a water supply from what is called today Mary’s Well, and there is evidence of some limited terraced agriculture, as well as pasture fields.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSo you admit you have no evidence in support of your cockamamie ideas, but stubbornly handwave off actual physical remains of buildings including houses that have been unearthed from that time.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by eider View PostYes. The archeological evidence suggests one or two buildings from the 1st century. Now please show me your evidence that buildings were the general habitations in, say, 1 AD.
Can you do that, please?
And, if "one or two buildings" have been discovered, there's a distinct possibility - heck, even probability - there are more.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You do realize that even "one or two buildings" having been discovered destroys that narrative that there were none, yes?
And, if "one or two buildings" have been discovered, there's a distinct possibility - heck, even probability - there are more.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
However, investigating further would require demolishing currently occupied buildings, so this is about as much as we can get.
She was a 'secular Jew', but she did her due diligence on the New Testament, knowing that Christians would want to know Israel from a Christian perspective.
She had a keen interest in archeology, and would often point out "there was a public school being built right over there, but when they were excavating for the foundation, they found significant archeologic remains of another building, so they had to notify the Israeli Antiquities Authority, and that was 8 years ago, but they can't continue building until IAA gives them the go-ahead".
I can remember at least a half dozen such "interruptions" on our tour, some of which were both in Bethlehem and Nazareth.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You do realize that even "one or two buildings" having been discovered destroys that narrative that there were none, yes?
And, if "one or two buildings" have been discovered, there's a distinct possibility - heck, even probability - there are more.
So what are you talking about?
But one of two do not make a street of houses.
Nazareth was a busy place like all the opther hilltops around Sepphoris, once Antipas had commenced a restoration of the 7 acre city.
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Originally posted by eider View PostThere was a foundation from early first century known about 20 years ago.
So what are you talking about?
But one of two do not make a street of houses.
Nazareth was a busy place like all the opther hilltops around Sepphoris, once Antipas had commenced a restoration of the 7 acre city.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
He'd fit right in.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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