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. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Roy View PostYou can obviously type now. Could you type when you were born? Or before you were born?
If not, then your ability (to type) must have come from an inability (to type). An ability can come from an inability, and an inability is not the same as 'nothing'.
You are wrong.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostYou can obviously type now. Could you type when you were born? Or before you were born?
If not, then your ability (to type) must have come from an inability (to type). An ability can come from an inability, and an inability is not the same as 'nothing'.
You are wrong.Last edited by Roy; 06-08-2017, 12:14 PM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostNever mind. It doesn't matter. You obviously can't understand this stuff. Don't worry your twee little head about it.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostI am arguing ability does not come from inability.Either you agree or you contend that ultimately ability comes from inability. If you agree, then here must always been Ability. If you disagree, then you are effectively arguing ability comes from nothing.
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I believe in an uncaused existence. As what I identify as Who. Infinite and personal.
You are making no sense.
What is your idea of God? Yes, I understand you do not profess to believe there is God. You have an idea of God where there cannot be one in your view.Last edited by 37818; 06-09-2017, 07:33 AM.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View Post
I believe in an uncaused existence. As what I identify as Who. Infinite and personal.
You are making no sense.What is your idea of God? Yes, I understand you do not profess to believe there is God. You have an idea of God where there cannot be one in your view.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYour problem is that you have no substantive evidence to support this belief.
What would be substantive evidence for you? Never mind me.
Besides the Christian belief that Christians have evidence from God (John 17:3; 1 John 5:9; John 14:6). Non-Christians do not know God in any personal way.
How? Please explain your thinking on this.
Well, I have not heard you make the argument, like that the sun is no more the god Apollo than uncaused existence is God. You have not made this argument.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostYou allow yourself no basis to acknowledge that anyone can have any such evidence.What would be substantive evidence for you? Never mind me.
Besides the Christian belief that Christians have evidence from God (John 17:3; 1 John 5:9; John 14:6). Non-Christians do not know God in any personal way.
How? Please explain your thinking on this.Well, I have not heard you make the argument, like that the sun is no more the god Apollo than uncaused existence is God. You have not made this argument.
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