Are You A Good Man....

[Jedidiah]

Well, we can't ignore her because she's a mod, . . .

Baloney! Just ignore her. I have no one on 'ignore' bit I still ignore several posters.

[lilpixieofterror]

Well, we can't ignore her because she's a mod, but that's not the important point. The important point is that she follows people into threads to bait them into conflict - she has baited me in two separate other threads concerning abortion, so I just gave her this one so she'd stop. This lady knows no boundaries and she just brutally trolls anyone she wants to payback for things that happened in previous threads, or has vendetta against - just look at the pages in her post history. And honestly, she babbles to herself like a deranged person. Look at her posts to me, she's going on about how 'you haven't answered my points yet!' as if she thinks we are debating.

There's something mentally off with this woman in a number of ways,

Poor James. The innocent victim of the mean old LPOT even when he starts fights he can't finish and whines and complains when people fight him back. I was leaving you alone until you started a fight with me. If you can't finish what you start or can't take people debating your position, perhaps you should stop doing those things? Nah it's easier to blame others and throw a little fit when you get the same treatment you first dished out. Don't want me to say anything to you it's rather easy, stop starting fights and blaming others when they fight back.

[lilpixieofterror]

So you won't state that killing an enemy's kids so that they don't grow up is unacceptable.

You wrote that "I sure wouldn't defend a Christian that came out in support of killing kids." But not only do you defend Christians who support killing kids, you are one yourself.

Sorry Roy, but this as already been answered and your response is to ignore the answers and nuisances so you can score points against Christians.

1. If a population has been effectively weaponized in a war and lines between civilian and military. Children may very well be legit targets that threaten your life.
2. Killing someone for no real reason is a huge issue.

Of course, I have explained this to you already and you merely ignore it and repeat yourself is a sad attempt to shove words into my mouth so you can make me say things I never said.

[Tassman]

The majority of people are religious. That does not mean they are people because they are religious.

Nevertheless, the statistics show that at one end of the spectrum we have 76% White Evangelical Protestants that believe abortion is morally wrong compared with 23% religiously unaffiliated at the other end of the spectrum, who consider it morality acceptable.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...bout-abortion/

Hence, it is reasonable to conclude that for the majority of Christians abortion is primarily a religious issue, not a scientific one as some Christians try to spin it.

[Tassman]

Well, we can't ignore her because she's a mod, but that's not the important point. The important point is that she follows people into threads to bait them into conflict - she has baited me in two separate other threads concerning abortion, so I just gave her this one so she'd stop. This lady knows no boundaries and she just brutally trolls anyone she wants to payback for things that happened in previous threads, or has vendetta against - just look at the pages in her post history. And honestly, she babbles to herself like a deranged person. Look at her posts to me, she's going on about how 'you haven't answered my points yet!' as if she thinks we are debating.

There's something mentally off with this woman in a number of ways,

Just ignore her click-baiting, James, I've been doing it for years. It's the only way to deal with the quagmire she engenders.

[Sea of red]

Just ignore her click-baiting, James, I've been doing it for years. It's the only way to deal with the quagmire she engenders.

I just play along for the sport of it, Jamie, not because I take her seriously.

Aside from her trolling, she has to be one of the most delusional narcissists I've every come across on the internet. She really thinks that she has good debate skills, that her questions are difficult for her opponents to answer, and that she's a compelling thinker that is taken seriously. It's actually embarrassing to watch her get in over her head again and again, and never learn her lessons, never noticing how nobody takes her seriously at all.

It's one of the most interesting cases of narcissism I've ever see.

[Bill the Cat]

Because pre-brain formation is not biologically congruent with post-cessation of brain activity. Meaning what happens before the brain forms is not the same as what happens after it dies.

[Bill the Cat]

This puzzles me: Do you know you are lying here, or are you literally that stupid and that ignorant that you think you're telling the truth?

I am telling the truth. When the pro-abort side tosses out "it's just a clump of cells" on a regular basis, they show how biologically ignorant they are.

Even an average person who'd spent 5 minutes studying the abortion debates would know this was totally untrue, so I don't understand what you think you are gaining by making statements that absolutely everyone knows are false and wrong.

Oh bull crap. Anyone who has even made one dissenting comment on abortion has heard the ignorant "it's only a clump of cells" crap your side hauls out like it's some canned text on a forum.

That statement is much more on-point and at least shows a rudimentary grasp of the issues on your part.

Sorry, Mr. Snob, but I have much more than a "rudimentary" grasp on the issue.

And we're back to you making statements that everyone knows are ridiculously false. Are you that stupid, or are you deliberately lying and if so, why?

If you know that someone is a distinct member of our species, and you STILL think it is OK to wantonly eliminate them at the leisure of another, then I apologize for calling you ignorant. You're a disgusting psychopath.

Wow, that random claim came out of left-field.

It's been discussed for several pages in this thread, so no, it was not out of left-field. Keep up with the arguments or bow out.

[Sparko]

I am telling the truth. When the pro-abort side tosses out "it's just a clump of cells" on a regular basis, they show how biologically ignorant they are.



Oh bull crap. Anyone who has even made one dissenting comment on abortion has heard the ignorant "it's only a clump of cells" crap your side hauls out like it's some canned text on a forum.



Sorry, Mr. Snob, but I have much more than a "rudimentary" grasp on the issue.



If you know that someone is a distinct member of our species, and you STILL think it is OK to wantonly eliminate them at the leisure of another, then I apologize for calling you ignorant. You're a disgusting psychopath.



It's been discussed for several pages in this thread, so no, it was not out of left-field. Keep up with the arguments or bow out.

Here:

You can think of a blastocyst as a building block. Just as a brick is not a house, a blastocyst is not a human being. And you are not entitled to your own definitions or words already in common use.

How can a clump of cells, without a functioning brain, be "innocent"...or guilty if it comes to that. Typical emotional claptrap!

[Tassman]

Because pre-brain formation is not biologically congruent with post-cessation of brain activity. Meaning what happens before the brain forms is not the same as what happens after it dies.

The question is whether or not a non-viable entity, without a functioning brain is entitled to same rights and protection as you and I. Why would it be?

[Starlight]

When the pro-abort side tosses out "it's just a clump of cells" on a regular basis, they show how biologically ignorant they are.

It is a clump of cells, it's not biologically ignorant to say that.

I have much more than a "rudimentary" grasp on the issue.

No, you've shown your grasp of the issues is significantly worse than rudimentary.

[Bill the Cat]

The question is whether or not a non-viable entity, without a functioning brain is entitled to same rights and protection as you and I. Why would it be?

Because it is a unique member of our species. That it hasn't attained the maturity to achieve a particular developmental stage of viability or specialization of a particular cellular function shouldn't affect that. It's a fully self-contained and self-directing living organism of our species.

[Bill the Cat]

It is a clump of cells, it's not biologically ignorant to say that.

So are you. It's biologically ignorant to act like its shape somehow makes it not a human being.

No, you've shown your grasp of the issues is significantly worse than rudimentary.

Whatever you say, E.L.

[Tassman]

Because it is a unique member of our species. That it hasn't attained the maturity to achieve a particular developmental stage of viability or specialization of a particular cellular function shouldn't affect that. It's a fully self-contained and self-directing living organism of our species.

It will be a "unique member of our species" in due course, but not yet. It can't be said to be that before it has the necessary brain function to be a viable entity. Potential is not the same as actuality. So, again, why would it be entitled to same rights and protection as you and I?

[Bill the Cat]

It will be a "unique member of our species" in due course, but not yet.

This is the biological ignorance I was talking about. Embryology textbooks pretty unanimously agree that an embryo is already a unique member of our species.

It can't be said to be that before it has the necessary brain function to be a viable entity.

False.

Potential is not the same as actuality.

An infant is a POTENTIAL adult. Not all make it there. So, we get to dehumanize infants now? After all, potential isn't actuality.

So, again, why would it be entitled to same rights and protection as you and I?

Because they are unique members of our species according to embryology textbooks.