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Interpretation the Trinity is polytheistic
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostGobbledygook. That's a good term you can use for any theory of theology or science that you don't comprehend.
Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostLet's suppose that there is a treaty drawn up between the US and Germany. How many treaties are executed? The answer is three: A treaty executed in English, a treaty executed in German, and a treaty executed in French (which of course is the language of the UN). Every one of the these three treaties is fully the treaty, they are not just copies of the treaty. The English Treaty is fully and actually the treaty apart from and separate from the other two. The French version is fully and actually the treaty...again apart from and separate from the others. At the same time, the German Treaty is also fully and separately the actual treaty. Yet, there is no question that the treaties are different as one is in English, one in French and one in German. So, you have one "Thing", the treaty between the US and Germany can be made up of three "Things" (the English, German and French treaty) where each of them is fully the "Thing" (the treaty) but each of the 3 things are distinct from each other.
There you have it, three things that are one thing.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostNot too long ago LJ provided an analogy that I think even the simple-minded can follow:
The belief that the Incarnate God Jesus Christ is seated on the right side of God the Father confirms that they are two distinct and separate persons(?).
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe belief that the Incarnate God Jesus Christ is seated on the right side of God the Father confirms that they are two distinct and separate persons(?).
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe concept of personhood just confirms the anthropomorphic concept of the nature of three Gods. Personhood describes three persons.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostWell, yes? That's what the doctrine of the Trinity teaches any way, so I'm not sure why you're bringing attention to that fact?Last edited by Same Hakeem; 03-24-2020, 12:21 PM.
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View Post"That's what the doctrine of the Trinity teaches" but Bible does not teach so because the Bible teaches only one God in 1 Corinthians 8:4 but in Rev 3:21 Jesus sitting with the Father on his throne proves that there is more than one being so Jesus cannot be God because God is one only.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostYou do realize what John saw in Revelation was a vision right? You're not supposed to take visions literally.
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostIn John 1:2, "He (Jesus) was with God in the beginning" shows the same point that Jesus CANNOT BE GOD and BE WITH GOD because God is only one in 1 Corinthians 8:4.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View PostYou are quoting that out of context. What version are you using anyway? Here's a full quote from NIV:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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but Paul says in that same letter, Chapter 8 verse 6:
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
The Bible constantly says God is the Creator, and here Paul identifes Jesus as that Creator as well.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View Postbut Paul says in that same letter, Chapter 8 verse 6:
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
The Bible constantly says God is the Creator, and here Paul identifes Jesus as that Creator as well.
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostAll over the Bible, God is one. Therefore, Jesus CANNOT BE GOD and be WITH God in John 1:2. Otherwise, this requires having two GODS.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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