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While this area is for the discussion of these doctrines within historic Christianity, all theists interested in discussing these areas within the presuppositions of and respect for the Christian framework are welcome to participate here. This is not the area for debate between nontheists and theists, additionally, there may be some topics that within the Moderator's discretion fall so outside the bounds of mainstream evangelical doctrine that may be more appropriately placed within Comparative Religions 101 Nontheists seeking only theistic participation only in a manner that does not seek to undermine the faith of others are also welcome - but we ask that Moderator approval be obtained beforehand.
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Did Jesus have sexual desires?
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostSexual desire is not a sin. Having a thought is not a sin. Dwelling on desires, especially toward someone to whom one is not married, quickly becomes a slippery slope.
If Jesus became like us in all things save sin, then he very likely had sexual desires. He just didn't dwell on or act on them.
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Honest question: What was the point in posting this thread in the first place?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostThey believe that anyone even remotely human can't possibly be God. from a very strict monotheism this makes sense. The Trinity is a bit more complicated than that.
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Originally posted by Darfius View PostWhile you are doublespeaking, please explain how a man can feel sexual desire without lusting. Was it a particularly well carved chair that turned Him on?
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Originally posted by Jaxb View PostJesus had both human and divine attributes. Jesus with respect to His divinity was omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. Jesus with respect to His humanity got tired, was hungry, and so on. This is no contradiction.
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I think you're blurring where I'm trying to make a distinction. I would equate "looking to lust after" with "dwelling on desires" - which, yes, is "thinking." A thought can come into my head from anywhere - but if I reject it, how is it a sin?Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Young's Literal Translation says "but I -- I say to you, that every one who is looking on a woman to desire her, did already commit adultery with her in his heart."
You look out your back door, and your neighbor woman has decided to go for a swim in the nude. You see her, then you look away, knowing you don't really need to see that. As opposed to continuing to watch, and allowing your imagination to run.
Sometimes, you can't help "seeing something", but you don't have to continue looking.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYoung's Literal Translation says "but I -- I say to you, that every one who is looking on a woman to desire her, did already commit adultery with her in his heart."
You look out your back door, and your neighbor woman has decided to go for a swim in the nude. You see her, then you look away, knowing you don't really need to see that. As opposed to continuing to watch, and allowing your imagination to run.
Sometimes, you can't help "seeing something", but you don't have to continue looking.
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