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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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Originally posted by seanD View Post"Pinpoint" suggests a specific date. Nonetheless, as Darfius stated, we're following the Lord's instructions. You're not repudiating us, you're actually repudiating the Lord's words. So if you can deal with that, have at it. I'm going to continue obeying his command. Also, the eschatology thread is here specifically to discuss the matter. If it bothers you, then take it up with the admins of the forum
2) he is one of this forum's moderators.... are you that dense?A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
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Just to be clear, I'm not saying anything is against the site's rules. I'm just asking what the point is."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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I know exactly when the end is coming!
When the Father says so!!!! So stop fretting about it and get ready already!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Good question. In 100 years, all of us here right now will likely be dead. And if you die, it's the end of this world for you. So, why are some obsessed over the end of human history? Every one alive today will be dead in 150 years.
Ninja'd Oh well...If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostI'm no futurist, but I agree with SeanD: that if futurism is true, that there's an obligation to look out for and observe the signs that the Lord has told us will precede the end times.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostI'm no futurist, but I agree with SeanD: that if futurism is true, that there's an obligation to look out for and observe the signs that the Lord has told us will precede the end times."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd I believe, if we are truly the followers of Christ, that we be faithful to the end, regardless when that end is. Sure, we observe the signs, but we don't set dates.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd I believe, if we are truly the followers of Christ, that we be faithful to the end, regardless when that end is. Sure, we observe the signs, but we don't set dates.
Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostSome of the signs as listed in the Olivet Discourse and elsewhere in Scripture could easily apply to any number of different eras. Wars and rumors of wars have been omnipresent since the dawn of human civilization, and selfishness has always been part of the fallen human nature. But these signs can nonetheless serve as good reminders that evil will not always reign supreme and that Jesus will, in fact, return.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostA futurist can remain just as faithful to Christ as you are and still obey the commands of Christ to know "when he's at the door."
The two are not mutually exclusive, so I don't see the point in this argument unless you think they are.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAh, so Christ commanded us to stand by the door and wait for the knock? That's just silly.
My specific objection has been DATE SETTING. Are you trying to do THAT? My Job is to "occupy" til He comes. I'm gonna continue doing that -- you can wait by the door.
As to your second, okay, but like I said, no one has ever set date here. Every Christian in this thread would agree with you about specific date setting, so it's sort of a redundancy to keep repeating it. The thread, according to KH, was directed to my Time of Sorrows thread, which didn't set a date. So I'm responding in that context.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostAs to your second, okay, but like I said, no one has ever set date here.
Every Christian in this thread would agree with you about specific date setting, so it's sort of a redundancy to keep repeating it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNor did I say they did. I expressed my opinion, and you seemed to want to take that on as a battle.
The ONLY reason it keeps coming up is because you seem to want to battle over it.
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