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  • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
    Well, you can't say that he obeyed the command to put to death the desires of the flesh by the Spirit and it didn't happen.
    So, if a persons sins even ONE TIME, you'd doom them to Hell for eternity?

    The only logical conclusion is that he did not put to death the desires of the flesh.
    No - the logical conclusion is that he fell, and got up again, and got back on track. And, AGAIN, I praise God that He is a God of second chances (and more).
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
      He failed, just like we all do. key thing to note is that, after falling, he got back up and resumed trying. That's all any of us can do.

      You know full well my reply to that.
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      So, if a persons sins even ONE TIME, you'd doom them to Hell for eternity?

      No - the logical conclusion is that he fell, and got up again, and got back on track. And, AGAIN, I praise God that He is a God of second chances (and more).
      Guys, I believe a constructive view can be reached. Please don't dismiss the assertions of hand. Rather let's try to unpack this very complex teaching.

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      • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
        Guys, I believe a constructive view can be reached. Please don't dismiss the assertions of hand. Rather let's try to unpack this very complex teaching.
        You forgot sarcasm tags.
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        • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          You forgot sarcasm tags.

          Not really. You don't need a PhD to unlock mysteries. You just need Jesus:

          Acts 4:13Now as they observed the confidence of Peter and John and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they were amazed, and began to recognize them as having been with Jesus.

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          • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
            Not really. You don't need a PhD to unlock mysteries. You just need Jesus:

            Acts 4:13Now as they observed the confidence of Peter and John and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they were amazed, and began to recognize them as having been with Jesus.
            Why deliberately make your posts difficult to understand?
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            • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
              Not really. You don't need a PhD to unlock mysteries. You just need Jesus:

              Acts 4:13Now as they observed the confidence of Peter and John and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they were amazed, and began to recognize them as having been with Jesus.
              Is it your view that the Holy Spirit will provide the proper interpretation of any biblical passage to a true Christian?
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                Why deliberately make your posts difficult to understand?
                He thinks God will reveal the meaning of his post?
                If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                • Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                  He thinks God will reveal the meaning of his post?
                  OR he's hoping one of US will reveal the meaning of his post to him.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    Is it your view that the Holy Spirit will provide the proper interpretation of any biblical passage to a true Christian?
                    Absolutely! That's why the desert ascetic's lifestyle isn't Scriptural. The Holy Spirit in the speaker AND the Holy Spirit in the hearers is the Biblical method to unlock mysteries.

                    1 Corinthians 3:10According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it. 11For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work. 14If any man’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. 15If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

                    Jeremiah 23:28“The prophet who has a dream may relate his dream, but let him who has My word speak My word in truth. What does straw have in common with grain?” declares the LORD. 29“Is not My word like fire?” declares the LORD, “and like a hammer which shatters a rock? 30“Therefore behold, I am against the prophets,” declares the LORD, “who steal My words from each other. 31“Behold, I am against the prophets,” declares the LORD, “who use their tongues and declare, ‘The Lord declares.’ 32“Behold, I am against those who have prophesied false dreams,” declares the LORD, “and related them and led My people astray by their falsehoods and reckless boasting; yet I did not send them or command them, nor do they furnish this people the slightest benefit,” declares the LORD

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                    • If you are a Christian, is it mandatory that you "go to church"? If so, is there Biblical evidence to support such a precedent?

                      To some this question might seem sophomoric, but I think it is a legitimate query... being that modern Christendom seems to put so much weight on this issue.

                      Disclosure: I am not against the Ekklesia meeting together on regular basis.

                      Thank you--in advance--for any replies.

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                      • Have we gotten a little off track?
                        Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                        • He seems to think so...and yes, we're kinda off track...per Tweb custom.
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                          • Originally posted by Steven View Post
                            If you are a Christian, is it mandatory that you "go to church"? If so, is there Biblical evidence to support such a precedent?

                            To some this question might seem sophomoric, but I think it is a legitimate query... being that modern Christendom seems to put so much weight on this issue.

                            Disclosure: I am not against the Ekklesia meeting together on regular basis.

                            Thank you--in advance--for any replies.
                            We answered that about 20 pages ago. You didn't like the answers.
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                            • Last edited by footwasher; 03-08-2015, 04:02 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
                                Doesn't going to church count as gathering with saints?

                                Not of it is done the way churches gather together today. First century churches gathered together primarily to learn how to follow God.

                                1 Corinthians 14:26What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up.
                                Paul is criticizing the church for this disorder, not commending it.
                                There are many ways to learn. Research shows that studying alone is not sufficient to learn about a subject. One must be in a group for best results, because of interaction.

                                Modern churches do not have a place for interaction.

                                Therefore better results are gained from attending Bible studies than from attending churches.
                                Just about every "modern church" I've been in has a place for interaction. Have you been to many?
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