Off The Deep End

[robrecht]

Perhaps a mixture of both. If the Seven Day Adventist historian LeRoy Edwin Froom is correct referring to the pope as the Antichrist was something that had been going on for centuries in central Europe. He cites, for instance, the Prince-Archbishop of Salzburg, Austria Eberhard II von Truchsees as saying at a synod of bishops held at Regensburg, Germany around 1240 that the people of his day were "accustomed" to calling the pope Antichrist.

And I think many of the Catholics indeed thought that the Reformers were evidence of the coming of the End Times in that in their view they were sundering the body of Christ.

Can you provide any names of Catholics contemporary to Luther or the Counter-reformation who referred to Luther and the other reformers as evidence of an imminent apocalypse? I am not saying you're wrong, but I have never heard of this and would like to learn more if it represents a substantial number of people who advocated this view.

[rogue06]

Can you provide any names of Catholics contemporary to Luther or the Counter-reformation who referred to Luther and the other reformers as evidence of an imminent apocalypse? I am not saying you're wrong, but I have never heard of this and would like to learn more if it represents a substantial number of people who advocated this view.

Was going from memory but have a book or two in storage that brings up what was being said by both sides.

[Scrawly]

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here...

Oh I was basically just pointing out that I think many believers in our modern society tend to reject the more extreme commands of the Bible in favor of a therapeutic view of God simply because they perceive that God doesn't actually involve himself in a tangible, objective manner. They play it safe, in other words - "I believe, naturally". They therefore categorize the believers who actively try and hear the voice of God and pursue the gift of miracles while evangelizing everywhere they go as "nutbars".

[KingsGambit]

Oh I was basically just pointing out that I think many believers in our modern society tend to reject the more extreme commands of the Bible in favor of a therapeutic view of God simply because they perceive that God doesn't actually involve himself in a tangible, objective manner. They play it safe, in other words - "I believe, naturally". They therefore categorize the believers who actively try and hear the voice of God and pursue the gift of miracles while evangelizing everywhere they go as "nutbars".

Ah, okay.