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What Is TWeb's Thoughts on Charismatic Christianity
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostI accept that the gifts ALL still exist and operate based on personal experience and testimonies of the early church.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I'm not sure the gift of tongues has ceased, but I'm pretty sure what goes on in Pentacost churches is not any kind of language, its mumble/babble prayer. But that's not to say that the Holy Spirit can't influence a person through it, and I won't judge those who are given to it, but a special secret angelic language? Nope.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI'm not sure the gift of tongues has ceased, but I'm pretty sure what goes on in Pentacost churches is not any kind of language, its mumble/babble prayer. But that's not to say that the Holy Spirit can't influence a person through it, and I won't judge those who are given to it, but a special secret angelic language? Nope.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by phat8594 View PostI think I read somewhere in this thread that they speak 'Gibberish'
(I kid...I kid....[obviously])
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostOneness Pentacostals aren't Christian though.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI don't agree that that's the case. I think Oneness Pentecostalism is heretical, but I believe most Oneness Pentecostals are naively ignorant about the Trinity.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Oneness Pentecostals teach that the Bible standard of full salvation, which is repentance, baptism in water by immersion in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the initial sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. And they hold the act of water baptism is a work of God not being a work of man in this. Citing Acts 2:38 and Ephesians 2:8, 9. Holding speaking in tongues is the evidence of receiving the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9).. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostHow about Oneness Pentacostalism isn't Christian teaching?
To me, that's part of Christian maturing... it's a process, and not many of us get it all right up front. I certainly didn't (and haven't).The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Postfify.
Not surprising considering who's saying it.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostOneness Pentecostals teach that the Bible standard of full salvation, which is repentance, baptism in water by immersion in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the initial sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. And they hold the act of water baptism is a work of God not being a work of man in this. Citing Acts 2:38 and Ephesians 2:8, 9. Holding speaking in tongues is the evidence of receiving the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9).The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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