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I readily grant that there are parts of the Bible that are hard to understand, but the general message at least should always be clear. And the particularly difficult passages (like Ezekiel's bizarre visions) aren't going to be the subjects of very many sermons. There's no reason any adult without a learning disability shouldn't be able to handle reading one of the gospels.
(Though I wonder if the lady who said she couldn't handle the Bible tried reading a King James Version or Young's Literal Translation or something. That would actually make sense.)"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostI wouldn't want to sit through The Story. The sunday teaching or message should go directly through scripture and, sometimes, urgent messages for the current era.
But I also find Christian inspirational books to be boring -- at least what I've picked up.
When I wrote the OP, I was thinking of authors I read like CS Lewis, AW Tozer, or that book of Spurgeon sermons I've been wanting to read."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostFrom the Amazon reviews, it sounds like your church is far from the only one doing this. It's supposed to be an abridged version of a chronological bible, but appears to have been poorly executed (and the NIV is about the most boring translation out there). I certainly wouldn't be satisfied with such a church. Then again, I'm dissatisfied with Protestant churches in general, so the difference in this case is merely one of degree. I don't think anyone would be satisfied with that level of Christianity for long; either they're going to drift away from the faith entirely or leave for something more substantial."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI readily grant that there are parts of the Bible that are hard to understand, but the general message at least should always be clear. And the particularly difficult passages (like Ezekiel's bizarre visions) aren't going to be the subjects of very many sermons. There's no reason any adult without a learning disability shouldn't be able to handle reading one of the gospels.
(Though I wonder if the lady who said she couldn't handle the Bible tried reading a King James Version or Young's Literal Translation or something. That would actually make sense.)"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View PostFor books if you mean authors like Lacado, Yancy, any televangelist, I agree. If they aren't boring, they're light weight.
When I wrote the OP, I was thinking of authors I read like CS Lewis, AW Tozer, or that book of Spurgeon sermons I've been wanting to read."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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I've never read Tozer but I read JP Holding's scathing critique, which has been enough to keep me away."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostLooking for a better church? Or is there a way to improve things? A spiritual defibrillator?
If you're looking for the perfect church, and you find it - don't join it, cause you'll ruin it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Just a comment - I don't know the situation so I'm not commenting on it specifically but the general idea - if there's something wrong with our church, we are either part of the problem or should be part of the solution. Just meaning, the door shouldn't be our first recourse when things get tough."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostJust a comment - I don't know the situation so I'm not commenting on it specifically but the general idea - if there's something wrong with our church, we are either part of the problem or should be part of the solution. Just meaning, the door shouldn't be our first recourse when things get tough.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostYeah - some folks haven't realized that there are other translations than the KJV.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostJust a comment - I don't know the situation so I'm not commenting on it specifically but the general idea - if there's something wrong with our church, we are either part of the problem or should be part of the solution. Just meaning, the door shouldn't be our first recourse when things get tough.
So, you could try talking to those in leadership of such churches, but you might try seeing if you can put together a Bible study or something for those who are unwilling to leave but still want deeper content.Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.
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At this point in time I am more concerned with faithfulness to scripture than how "deep" things are. I left my church of 26 years after they made the switch to affirmation of homosexuality. Given that Scripture portrays this as a salvation issue, it's not something I can agree to disagree with.
The church we have been attending here is one I could not join because they have a super specific list of things you have to believe to join (one of which is Calvinism, which I don't hold to) but that's not a deal breaker for me. I mean, if I can't be a formal member, whatever. I actually find the teachings to be very useful and edifying."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd, by the way....
If you're looking for the perfect church, and you find it - don't join it, cause you'll ruin it.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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