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  • #76
    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    I, too, am extraordinarily humble.
    So true, but not as humble as me. I am humblerer.

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    • #77
      Pffft. I has more humbleness in my pinkie than the lot of ya got in all your bodies combined.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #78
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Pffft. I has more humbleness in my pinkie than the lot of ya got in all your bodies combined.
        Yes, but you don't take as much pride in your humbleness as I do mine.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          Yes, but you don't take as much pride in your humbleness as I do mine.
          Just another way that I'm so much more humble than you.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #80
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            • #81
              Kendrick Lamar recently had a hit "Humble" that I most certainly can't link here.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #82
                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                As for the actual OP, I know Robert Gagnon (the Presbyterian Bible scholar mostly known for his defense of the claim that homosexuality is a sin) does argue that it's one of the worst of sins, but I haven't read any of his books so I don't know his argument.
                I read one, but quite a few years ago. I don't recall anything from it.

                He has material online -- here and here, for instance.
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  First, I know that "sin is sin", and that the same author who said....

                  But, a friend asked me about Beth Moore's latest controversy where she, apparently, deleted a section from a reprint of one of her books, and the newly published Kindle version.

                  (Got back in town, so I'm brushing up on this -- I can't post the link, because it's full of profanity, but it comes from a Patheos source)

                  the section in question...



                  Apparently, she's being blasted from the Right for taking this passage out, and criticized by the Left for not being able to directly address the topic "as sin".

                  Meanwhile - and I haven't caught up with this yet - there is movement in the SBC to 'lessen' the impact of 'homosexuality is sin". Not sure what that's all about.

                  My position has been - as a number of us have stated numerous times - that it's not a sin to have homosexual thoughts or desires, but it is a sin to act on them, and particularly to take PRIDE in them.

                  In fact, I'm thinking that that's why homosexuality is often considered a "worse sin", because it is so often coupled with PRIDE, and the resulting "marriage" to a same sex person becomes a declaration of defiance to God.

                  We don't find a sexual predator (who wants to be respected) BOASTING of his sin, or an adulterer BOASTING of his sin.... or a thief boasting of his thievery....

                  Is there any other sin that a person takes PRIDE in, while wanting to be considered, for example, a "practicing Christian"?
                  I found an article just yesterday you might like to read:

                  http://www.rmnetwork.org/newrmn/wp-c...Sept.-2016.pdf
                  Last edited by Christian3; 07-14-2019, 12:07 PM.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
                    I found an article just yesterday you might like to read:
                    Why would Cow Poke like to read sterling examples of eisegesis? They are valiant attempts to validate homosexual relationships, but they fall far short of convincing.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                      Why would Cow Poke like to read sterling examples of eisegesis? They are valiant attempts to validate homosexual relationships, but they fall far short of convincing.
                      I thought the article had merit.

                      I talked to a Rabbi about homosexuality referring to this verse:

                      Leviticus 18:22:

                      22 You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

                      The Rabbi said it was too ambiguous and that Rabbis were allowed to be Gay and Gay soldiers were allowed in the military.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
                        I thought the article had merit.

                        I talked to a Rabbi about homosexuality referring to this verse:

                        Leviticus 18:22:

                        22 You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

                        The Rabbi said it was too ambiguous and that Rabbis were allowed to be Gay and Gay soldiers were allowed in the military.
                        Ambiguous? Are you kidding?
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          Why would Cow Poke like to read sterling examples of eisegesis?
                          EGGzackly. And the answer would be 'he wouldn't'. And, yes, that's my final answer, no need do call a friend or poll the audience.

                          They are valiant attempts to validate homosexual relationships, but they fall far short of convincing.
                          This is, of course, what Tassman claims Buttigieg is doing, though there's no evidence of which I am aware where Buttigieg ever attempted to reference the Bible on these matters at all.

                          I didn't really scan the list - does it include the "homosexual relationship" between David and Jonathan?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #88
                            It might be possible for the sake of argument that one or two of the seven homosexuality verses refer to something else. But there's no way all seven do. That's why the common tack of chipping away at individual verses doesn't go very far.
                            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                            • #89
                              Yes, homosexuality is one of the worst sins. In fact, all the death penalty sins from the Old Testament would rank pretty high up on the list, although among those, some would still be considered worse than others.

                              No, "gluttony" is not a sin.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
                                I found an article just yesterday you might like to read:

                                http://www.rmnetwork.org/newrmn/wp-c...Sept.-2016.pdf
                                Does the author make any attempt to address the facts that

                                1) There are NO passages that AFFIRM same-sex sexual relationships, and

                                2) There are multiple passages that, whether or not they are "about" homosexuality, do *involve* homosexuality, and all are negative?
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