Jerry Falwell, Jr. vs. Jesus

[KingsGambit]

Jerry Falwell, Jr.:

A poor person never gave anybody charity, not of any real volume

https://www.newsweek.com/evangelical...r-says-1276488

Jesus: I wish the media would stop giving this guy airtime to speak for Christianity.

[rogue06]

Jerry Falwell, Jr.:

https://www.newsweek.com/evangelical...r-says-1276488

Jesus:

I wish the media would stop giving this guy airtime to speak for Christianity.

I've never had much use for the Falwells. They would be better served sticking to preaching the Gospel message.

[Cow Poke]

Yeah, but he's a useful idiot, so...

[NorrinRadd]

I'm not a fan of the Falwells, but if you read the original WaPo article instead of the Fakenewsweek spun version, it comes across differently. I don't find his views there objectionable.

[KingsGambit]

I'm not a fan of the Falwells, but if you read the original WaPo article instead of the Fakenewsweek spun version, it comes across differently. I don't find his views there objectionable.

I can't read the Washington Post. Paywall.

[NorrinRadd]

I can't read the Washington Post. Paywall.

Really? Huh. I wonder how I got in. I never pay for access.

[hamster]

I can't read the Washington Post. Paywall.

Please don't cross the quarantine

[rogue06]

Really? Huh. I wonder how I got in. I never pay for access.

Do you access it from work or school? Like KG it's firmly ensconced behind a paywall for me

[Cow Poke]

Do you access it from work or school? Like KG it's firmly ensconced behind a paywall for me

I've found that a number of sites will allow you in a couple to half a dozen times, then start shaking you done for cash.

[Bill the Cat]

I can't read the Washington Post. Paywall.

Here's the relevant part:

Source: WaPo

Is it hypocritical for evangelical leaders to support a leader who has advocated violence and who has committed adultery and lies often? I understand that a person can be forgiven their sins, but should that person be leading the country?

© Copyright Original Source

He's not talking about giving to the church or the Lord. He's talking about having the means to help more people in a practical manner and doing so.

[seer]

Here's the relevant part:

Source: WaPo

Is it hypocritical for evangelical leaders to support a leader who has advocated violence and who has committed adultery and lies often? I understand that a person can be forgiven their sins, but should that person be leading the country?

© Copyright Original Source

He's not talking about giving to the church or the Lord. He's talking about having the means to help more people in a practical manner and doing so.

I don't see any problem with this...

[KingsGambit]

The context doesn't exonerate him at all. The mindset of minimizing or dismissing such acts is what Jesus spoke against. Having spent time with the poor/homeless and having experienced poverty, I know that poor people can be some of the most generous people out there, and I have seen real selflessness from them. Falwell says there is "no volume" to their actions.

[Cow Poke]

The context doesn't exonerate him at all. The mindset of minimizing or dismissing such acts is what Jesus spoke against. Having spent time with the poor/homeless and having experienced poverty, I know that poor people can be some of the most generous people out there, and I have seen real selflessness from them. Falwell says there is "no volume" to their actions.

I have to concur --- I quite frequently see acts of kindness and selflessness from people who really have, basically, nothing. I'll add that the context in which I see this is almost always in a "Christian" setting - like our homeless shelters or help stations.

[Bill the Cat]

The context doesn't exonerate him at all. The mindset of minimizing or dismissing such acts is what Jesus spoke against. Having spent time with the poor/homeless and having experienced poverty, I know that poor people can be some of the most generous people out there, and I have seen real selflessness from them. Falwell says there is "no volume" to their actions.

Yes it does. He's speaking of secular governments, not individual generosity. A poor government simply can't help its poor citizens. That's basic economic fact.

[Cow Poke]

Yes it does. He's speaking of secular governments, not individual generosity. A poor government simply can't help its poor citizens. That's basic economic fact.

I had a pastor friend once who was constantly leading his church to "local missions" stuff - food pantries, homeless shelters, 'bread ministries' -- to the detriment of the congregation's ability to pay their own basic bills like electricity and water.

He asked my advice on this, and I told him it's like launching sorties off an aircraft carrier --- the planes have to have a solid platform to come back to, and from which to receive supplies and support. If you don't maintain the carrier, all the sorties are in jeopardy. They can't refuel, rearm...

He actually was 'teachable', and began to realize --- in fact, he even introduced the analogy "like when they tell you on the airplane to put your oxygen mask on first, THEN help the child or person in need...."

Eventually, he became the "missions pastor" for a larger local Church where somebody could 'guide' his efforts. He had a good heart, but not much practical management.