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Discussion on matters of general mainstream evangelical Christian theology that do not fit within Theology 201. Have some spiritual gifts ceased today? Is the KJV the only viable translation for the church today? In what sense are the books of the bible inspired and what are those books? Church government? Modern day prophets and apostles?
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postyep. God doesn't hold us responsible for physical or mental problems when people are not in control.
but is cussing actually a sin? I can see someone being sinful AND cussing, maybe being mean to someone while tossing out cussing and other abuse at them. But what about just using swear words as exclamations? (not taking God in vain ones)
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's cultural. In our house, we weren't allowed to say "shut up" - that was "the sh" word, which, in my neighbor's house, was the swear word for poop. We can say poop, but we can't say the 'sh" word, and we can say all kinds of euphemisms for the F word, but.....
Yeah, that's always puzzled me. I think, for us Christians, anyway, the "biggie" is cursing involving blasphemy...Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.
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Originally posted by QuantaFille View PostIn my house growing up, "the f-word" was "freak". We were not allowed to use that word.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMy grandmother, who was a very godly woman all her life, spent her last few months in a nursing home swearing at everybody, to the shock and horror of my younger siblings. I just had to keep reminding them "that's not her".
I realize that's different from Tourette's Syndrome's coprolalia, but I think, like with my gramma, you have to realize "that's not really that person".Originally posted by Sparko View Postyep. God doesn't hold us responsible for physical or mental problems when people are not in control.
but is cussing actually a sin? I can see someone being sinful AND cussing, maybe being mean to someone while tossing out cussing and other abuse at them. But what about just using swear words as exclamations? (not taking God in vain ones)Originally posted by rogue06 View PostFor a long time I was good about not cussing. Back around 2005 I swore in front of my boss and he was shocked noting that he had never heard me swear before (in something like 3 years).
Now, unfortunately, partially due to the folks I work with, I swear all too frequently. Something I need to work on.For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>
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Originally posted by One Bad PigEntirely out of place is obscene, silly, and vulgar talk; but instead, let there be thanksgiving.
Ephesians 5:3-13
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
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And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
If you read the whole chapter, in context it's saying that we shouldn't talk about sexual sins in an approving way, or even in a joking way or neutral way. Instead, we should only talk about them in a condemning way.
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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostIt's hard for me to get past how lame that translation sounds.
Ephesians 5:3-13
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
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And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
If you read the whole chapter, in context it's saying that we shouldn't talk about sexual sins in an approving way, or even in a joking way or neutral way. Instead, we should only talk about them in a condemning way.For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>
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Originally posted by Hornet View PostEphesians 4:29 teaches that unwholesome words should not proceed from one's mouth. Would that include swear words?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIt is like saying "always wash your hands before eating" - it is a good rule to follow but that doesn't make not washing your hands before eating a sin.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostIf I'm remembering right "bloody" is pretty close to the f-word is here when it comes to being offensive over in Europe.
Further, it was explained that the "bloody mary" drink was pretty much the ultimate in insult to Mary.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, it was explained to me that it was a hateful slur against the blood of Christ. Never really tried to prove that, but that's what I was told.
Further, it was explained that the "bloody mary" drink was pretty much the ultimate in insult to Mary.
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