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It would be interesting to see if the fanaticism of these young men could be sustained in the context of the free world -- growing up and attending university or seminary, for example. I think for some people, their devotion and/or zealousness is directly proportionate to the duress that they are under. I am not saying that is necessarily the case, but it certainly could be -- especially for young, newly Christian men in such a stressful context. Mr. Borden on the other hand seemed to be the genuine article, but at the end of the day only God knows the heart of man.
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Originally posted by Scrawly View PostIt would be interesting to see if the fanaticism of these young men could be sustained in the context of the free world -- growing up and attending university or seminary, for example. I think for some people, their devotion and/or zealousness is directly proportionate to the duress that they are under. I am not saying that is necessarily the case, but it certainly could be -- especially for young, newly Christian men in such a stressful context. Mr. Borden on the other hand seemed to be the genuine article, but at the end of the day only God knows the heart of man.
He went on to get a PHD and be a missionary.
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Originally posted by Scrawly View PostThanks for your opinion, TM. Although, I think it's important, when investigating a matter, to make a sharp distinction between what we want to be true and what is in fact true. Or conversely, what we do not want to be true, yet what is true regardless. In our pursuit for truth we ought not let our desires override proper examination of the evidence.
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Now a hagiography is probably not a fully reliable source. The author's intend is to inspire the reader to live a life more directed to God. So parts could be a little suspect. On the other hand, where did the author get the quote from? If he made it up, it's still a good quote.
I agree. Hopefully it was the risen Christ empowering even if his actual life wasn't as heroic as portrayed."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostDuring college the guy spent time trying to 'evangelize' (I still don't know exactly what that meant to him) and rehabilitate the poor and/or obnoxious people in his society. He chose to forego a lucrative career in business (selling milk) and instead became a missionary. He died of an unusual disease before even accomplishing anything as a missionary. Contrary to what you wrote above, elsewhere I have seen that he gave away $1 million in his last will and testament, so it does not appear that he gave all his money away in his lifetime. It's perhaps not the path that I would have preferred, but I don't find anything all that extraordinary or insane about him.Last edited by Rushing Jaws; 06-15-2017, 02:44 AM.
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