Pop preachers and their heretical beliefs

[mossrose]

This. Horrible.

[Sparko]

This. Horrible.

What the??

[mossrose]

What the??

Exactly!

[mikewhitney]

Exactly!

Were there any specific scenes that you didn't recommend for church Christmas programs?

[mossrose]

Were there any specific scenes that you didn't recommend for church Christmas programs?

Yes. All of them.

[mikewhitney]

Yes. All of them.

I remember hearing about the big Christmas productions at the Crystal Cathedral. The camel scenes reminded me of the type of thing done there.

Those mostly went too far from the Christian message. maybe there could be something for attracting children -- for a moment -- but it has to draw things back to Christ.

Usually a big production at a church is not appropriate unless something like Handel's Messiah -- something respectful of the message -- something inspired.

[mossrose]

I remember hearing about the big Christmas productions at the Crystal Cathedral. The camel scenes reminded me of the type of thing done there.

Those mostly went too far from the Christian message. maybe there could be something for attracting children -- for a moment -- but it has to draw things back to Christ.

Usually a big production at a church is not appropriate unless something like Handel's Messiah -- something respectful of the message -- something inspired.

Yes. None of these were remotely appropriate. Music or otherwise has to be putting the birth of Christ and the reason He came first and foremost.

Now, THIS is a Christmas concert!

https://www.gracechurch.org/music/posts/1558

[mossrose]

And this just in, look who's following in his father's footsteps!

[Cow Poke]

oh my!!!!

About Jonathan Osteen | Joel Osteen Ministries

[mossrose]

oh my!!!!

About Jonathan Osteen | Joel Osteen Ministries

He has the same evil grin as his dad.

[NorrinRadd]

He has the same evil grin as his dad.

Ehh, to me they look more goofy than evil.

[NorrinRadd]

Note that the Statement of Faith is completely orthodox, and much better than Beth Moore's. That's why you can only trust a SoF to a limited extent.

[mossrose]

Ehh, to me they look more goofy than evil.

That, too.

[mossrose]

Note that the Statement of Faith is completely orthodox, and much better than Beth Moore's. That's why you can only trust a SoF to a limited extent.

Yuh. I think there is more Universalism in Osteen along with his WoF garbage and his SoF is just so much blithering to make it look like he's more orthodox.

The SoF is likely the same as his father had and he's never bothered to change it.

[mossrose]

This is absolutely vile, pure blasphemy on the level of Lucifer himself. How any believer can think Bethel is a legitimate church is beyond me.