What exactly constitutes general mainstream evangelical Christian theology?
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What exactly is general mainstream evangelical Christian theology?
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That's actually an interesting question, but not so easy to answer.
For example, what is "mainstream".
I would think that Lutherans and Methodists were "mainstream", but the Pastors of two of the larger local Lutheran Churches, a Methodist Church, and a Presbyterian Church just had a public forum a few weeks ago in my town whereby they made it clear that they are approving of ordination of GLBTXQPJNS ministers (one of them has a homosexual youth minister) and the concept that "God has provided many paths to himself", making Jesus a liar for claiming He is the only way to the Father. Further, they pretty much redefined "the Trinity" as being "faith, hope and love", and declared that all religions "of the Abrahamic Tradition", including Christianity, Judaism and Islam, are legitimate paths to God.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's actually an interesting question, but not so easy to answer.
For example, what is "mainstream".
I would think that Lutherans and Methodists were "mainstream", but the Pastors of two of the larger local Lutheran Churches, a Methodist Church, and a Presbyterian Church just had a public forum a few weeks ago in my town whereby they made it clear that they are approving of ordination of GLBTXQPJNS ministers (one of them has a homosexual youth minister) and the concept that "God has provided many paths to himself", making Jesus a liar for claiming He is the only way to the Father. Further, they pretty much redefined "the Trinity" as being "faith, hope and love", and declared that all religions "of the Abrahamic Tradition", including Christianity, Judaism and Islam, are legitimate paths to God.That's what
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's actually an interesting question, but not so easy to answer.
For example, what is "mainstream".
I would think that Lutherans and Methodists were "mainstream", but the Pastors of two of the larger local Lutheran Churches, a Methodist Church, and a Presbyterian Church just had a public forum a few weeks ago in my town whereby they made it clear that they are approving of ordination of GLBTXQPJNS ministers (one of them has a homosexual youth minister) and the concept that "God has provided many paths to himself", making Jesus a liar for claiming He is the only way to the Father. Further, they pretty much redefined "the Trinity" as being "faith, hope and love", and declared that all religions "of the Abrahamic Tradition", including Christianity, Judaism and Islam, are legitimate paths to God..
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostAnyone calling themselves a Christian that thinks that Islam is a "legitimate path to God" is completely.
So, it goes back to "what is mainstream"? Are there enough of these watered down Churches that they are considered the "mainstream", just like the "mainstream media" has lost it's way?
*one of them is a lesbianThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think these guys (pastors - and not just "guys"*) are so desperate to be "relevant" to society that they give up their calling from God - if they ever had one. As we have demonstrated before, these Churches that seek to be "relevant" ("inclusive"?) are dying, and those Churches that continue to preach the Word of God with authority are holding their own or growing.
So, it goes back to "what is mainstream"? Are there enough of these watered down Churches that they are considered the "mainstream", just like the "mainstream media" has lost it's way?
*one of them is a lesbian
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThey seem to be affected by the societal need to be perceived as being "cool" as being more important than anything else.
"Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart"The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Ana asked about mainstream *Evangelical* Xianity. I'm not sure all -- or maybe any -- of the examples cited so far qualify as "Evangelical."
Evangelicalism at Wikipedia.
Evangelicalism at Theopedia.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostAna asked about mainstream *Evangelical* Xianity. I'm not sure all -- or maybe any -- of the examples cited so far qualify as "Evangelical."
Evangelicalism at Wikipedia.
Evangelicalism at Theopedia.
I have generally viewed belief in the "born again" experience and belief in Biblical inerrancy as the two most consistent defining traits of Evangelicalism.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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It's the same here. The United Church and the Anglican Church, once strong evangelical denominations, have descended into heresy. I fear that many of the other denominations will soon follow as they pursue "feel-good" and social gospels.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostAna asked about mainstream *Evangelical* Xianity. I'm not sure all -- or maybe any -- of the examples cited so far qualify as "Evangelical."
Evangelicalism at Wikipedia.
Evangelicalism at Theopedia.
I have generally viewed belief in the "born again" experience and belief in Biblical inerrancy as the two most consistent defining traits of Evangelicalism.I am become death...
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It seems to me that people are saying that christianity is a means to an end rather than the covenant relationship that is supposed to flow over into all aspects of our lives.
When you make it a means and not the truth then christianity becomes a meaningless ahadow that anybody can twist as they desire.sigpic
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostAna asked about mainstream *Evangelical* Xianity. I'm not sure all -- or maybe any -- of the examples cited so far qualify as "Evangelical."
Evangelicalism at Wikipedia.
Evangelicalism at Theopedia.
I have generally viewed belief in the "born again" experience and belief in Biblical inerrancy as the two most consistent defining traits of Evangelicalism.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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