The SUN of Righteousness

[Cow Poke]

This. I'm convinced that some of my experiences involved angels in the past. Some seen, some unseen. Out of those seen some match up with being rather nondescript humans, others more unusual. The more unusual one had long blue hair, and "wings", but they were transparent, and not bird wings like in popular depictions.

I just hate it that Hollywood has totally messed up the whole thing about angels -- even in my favorite movie of all time - It's a Wonderful Life.

[Cerebrum123]

Certainly didn't take long for this thread to get derailed.

It's kind of the nature of the internet, and TWeb in particular is notorious about it.

[Cow Poke]

It's kind of the nature of the internet, and TWeb in particular is notorious about it.

Bacon.

[Christian3]

Haven't heard any lately. Though my wife's hybrid Toyota makes a sound when it backs up that sounds like EVIL angels singing!

What makes you think angels don't sing?

[Cow Poke]

What makes you think angels don't sing?

There's a whole thread on that.

[NorrinRadd]

This. I'm convinced that some of my experiences involved angels in the past. Some seen, some unseen. Out of those seen some match up with being rather nondescript humans, others more unusual. The more unusual one had long blue hair, and "wings", but they were transparent, and not bird wings like in popular depictions.

So... kind of Vorlonish?

[Cerebrum123]

So... kind of Vorlonish?

Had to look up what a Vorlon was, but sort of I guess. The Vorlon wings have more of a defined shape, while the ones I saw were more like energy extensions coming out of the back. Closest thing I could find to what they looked like was this.

[Sparko]

did someone say "bacon?"

[Rushing Jaws]

What's the issue with God Rest Ye?

And yes, We Three Kings has bad timing, as does every creche in existence. First Noel, maybe the same. We don't know that the shepherds didn't see the same star. It might have been shining for the 2 years it took the magi to get there.

Angels with wings is a bad Renaissance art thing.

Angels in Christian art have wings by at least the 4th century. The Seraphim in Isaiah 6 have wings. Angels in mediaeval Books of Hours have almost iridescent wings. Nor is this confined to Latin Christendom - EO ikons are full of winged angels, as is Ethiopian Christian art.

The Renaissance bad idea, was to confuse putti with cherubim.

Creches are inaccurate if taken as historically accurate tableaux vivants, but theologically they are first-rate. It’s just a pity that the echo of Isaiah 1.3 in the ox and ass will likely be missed.

[Rushing Jaws]

They've been described as having wings for a very long time.

2 Chronicles 5:8
The cherubim spread their wings over the place of the ark and covered the ark and its carrying poles.

Isaiah 6:2
Above him were seraphim, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying.

Both very pertinent verses. A response that I’ve come across, is to say that cherubim (and seraphim FTM) are not angels. When that is said, a fuller reply becomes necessary.

The word “angel” can mean either (rather roughly):
- an immortal created spirit in the service of God
- one such being, sent among men, not to be confused with seraphim, cherubim, etc.

So the word can stand for a species of beings, perhaps with a diversity of functions - or, for one particular sub-species within that species.

[Rushing Jaws]

Had to look up what a Vorlon was, but sort of I guess. The Vorlon wings have more of a defined shape, while the ones I saw were more like energy extensions coming out of the back. Closest thing I could find to what they looked like was this.

Vorlons appear visibly in at least 2 episodes of Babylon 5 - both in Series 3, IIRC.