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The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

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  • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

    Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
    13Then in my vision I heard an eagle, flying in midheaven, crying out with a loud voice, Woe, Woe, Woe, to those who dwell on the earth, from the utterances of the remaining trumpets which the three angels are yet to sound.

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    • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

      Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
      9 The fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fallen from heaven on the earth, and he was given the key of the abyss. 2He opened the pit of the abyss, and from the pit went up smoke like the smoke of a great furnace; the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the pit; 3out of the smoke came forth locusts on the earth and they were given power like that of the scorpions of the earth. 4They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green herbage or any tree, but only those men who have not the seal of God on their foreheads; 5they were not permitted to kill them, but to torture them for five months, and their torture was like the torture of a scorpion, when it strikes a man. 6In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will greatly desire to die, and death flies from them.

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      • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

        Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
        7In appearance the locusts were like horses equipped for war; on their heads there seemed to be crowns of gold; their faces were like men's faces, 8they had hair like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth; 9they had breastplates which seemed like breastplates of iron; the noise of their wings was like the noise of many chariots with horses rushing into battle. 10They have tails like scorpions, and stings, and in their tails is their power to hurt men for five months. 11They have as king over them the angel of the abyss; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

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        • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

          Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
          12The first woe has passed; behold, there are two woes yet to come.

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          • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

            Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
            13The sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the horns of the golden alter before God 14saying to the sixth angel with the trumpet. Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates. 15So the four angels were released, who had been held ready for the hour, the day, the month, and the year, to kill a third of mankind. 16The number of the hosts of cavalry was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. 17Thus I saw the horses in my vision, and their riders wearing breastplates of fire and hyacinth and brimstone: the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and from their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. 18By these three plagues the third part of mankind was killed, by the fire and smoke and brimstone issuing from their mouths; 19for the power of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails; their tails are like serpents, with heads, and with them they do harm.

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            • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

              Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
              9 20The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, to cease from worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk; 21nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their immorality or their thefts.

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              • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

                Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
                10 Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, wrapped in a cloud and with a rainbow on his head; his face was like the sun, and his feet like pillars of fire; 2in his hand was a little scroll, open. He set his right foot on the sea, and his left foot on the land, 3and he cried out with a loud voice, like the roaring of a lion; and when he cried out, seven thunders uttered their voices.

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                • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

                  Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
                  10 4Now when the seven thunders uttered their voices, I was about to write, but I heard a voice from heaven saying, Seal up what the seven thunders have said, and do not write it down. 5Then the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven 6and swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created heaven and all that's in it, that there should be no more delay, 7but that in the days of the utterance of the seventh angel, when comes his time to sound his trumpet, will be fulfilled the mystery of God, which he promised his servants the prophets.

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                  • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

                    Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
                    10 8The voice which I had heard from heaven spoke again to me and said, Go, take the scroll which is open in the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the land. 9So I went to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll; he said to me, take it and eat it; it will be bitter to your stomach, but in your mouth sweet as honey. 10So I took the little scroll from the hand of the angel and ate it; it was sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach was made bitter. 11And I was told, You must again prophesy concerning many peoples and nations and tongues and kings.

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                    • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

                      Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
                      11 Then I was given a measuring reed like a staff, with the command, Up, measure the temple of God, the altar, and the barrier which is within; 2but leave out the court which is without the temple, do not measure it; for it has been given to the Gentiles, and they will trample over the holy city for forty-two months. 3And I will permit my two witnesses to prophesy for a thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. 4These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth. 5If any one would harm them, fire issues from their mouth and consumes their enemies; whoever would harm them is doomed to die in this manner. 6They have power to shut the heavens, that there may be no rain during the days of their prophesying; also they have power over the waters, to turn them into blood, and to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they desire.

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                      • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

                        Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
                        11 7But when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the abyss will make war on them, and conquer them, and kill them. 8Their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which is allegorically called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. 9For three days and a half men from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look upon their dead bodies, and will not permit them to be put in a tomb. 10Moreover, those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and send gifts one to another; because these two prophets had tormented those who dwell on the earth.

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                        • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

                          Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
                          11 11But after the three days and a half the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12There was heard a great voice from heaven saying to them, Come up hither. And they went up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them ascend. 13Immediately there was a great earthquake, and a tenth part of the city fell; seven thousand men perished in the earthquake, while the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

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                          • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

                            Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
                            11 14The second woe has passed; behold, the third woe is soon to come.

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                            • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

                              Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
                              11 15The seventh angel sounded, and the voices in heaven were heard, saying, The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Anointed, and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16And the twenty-four elders, who sit on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshipped God, 17saying,
                              We give thanks, Lord God Almighty,
                              Who art and wast,
                              because thou didst take thy great power and
                              didst reign.
                              18While the nations were enraged
                              then came thy wrath, and the time
                              for the dead to be judged;
                              and for giving thy reward to thy servants,
                              thy prophets and saints,
                              and to all those who fear thy name,
                              both small and great,
                              and to destroy those who destroy the earth.

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                              • The Apocalypse of John, by Charles C. Torrey

                                Torrey's translation of his conjectured text of the Aramaic original of The Apocalypse of John ― i.e., an Aramaic text that existed, per Torrey's thesis, during the Aramaic period of the nascent Christian Church:
                                11 19Then was opened the temple of God which is in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his covenant; and there were flashes of lightening, fearful sounds, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail.

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