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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostThere's times to argue against religious belief. When those beliefs are providing comfort to someone with a dying spouse ... not so much.
I may be a jerk, but I'm not a ... yeah, that line from Seth to Katie at the end of From Dusk Till Dawn.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostTom the atheist seems a decent guy who does kind things without reference to God; he's an atheist after all. So why give credit to a deity? Tom wouldn't and nor would I.
There was a little old lady who would come out every morning on the steps of her front porch, raise her arms to the sky and shout, "Praise the Lord!"
Well, one day an atheist moved into the house next door. Over time, he became irritated at the little old lady. So every morning he would step out onto his front porch and yell after her, "There is no God!"
Time passes with the two of them carrying on this way every day. Then one morning in the middle of winter, the little old lady stepped onto her front porch and shouted, "Praise the Lord! Lord, I have no food and I am hungry. Please provide for me, oh Lord!"
The next morning she stepped onto her porch and there were two huge bags of groceries sitting there. "Praise the Lord!" she cried out. "He has provided groceries for me!" The atheist jumped out of the hedges and shouted, "There is no Lord. I bought those groceries!" The little old lady threw her arms into the air and shouted, "Praise the Lord! He has provided me with groceries and He made the devil pay for them!"
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Originally posted by JimL View PostBecause apparently for believers all the credit goes to God, Toms act of kindness wasn't of his own free will, he was just a tool used to fulfill Gods purposes.
And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.
And, perhaps God is using this situation to convince Tom that he exists. Someday, he might even convince you.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostTom is an interesting case. Although he claims (claimed?) to be an atheist, he seems to really enjoy being around me. I met him through my position as Police Chaplain, and he was my self-appointed antagonist. He's a retired fireman, now volunteering as a reserve police officer. He loves needling me about my "religion", but he keeps hanging around me, and has taken a very active role in a mission project we're doing for a retired couple needing some construction.
He simply has a heart to serve.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAnd when Tom dies God will annihilate or eternally tortue him for his non belief. Its no wonder he doesn't believe in such a God!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostBecause apparently for believers all the credit goes to God, Toms act of kindness wasn't of his own free will, he was just a tool used to fulfill Gods purposes.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostBecause apparently for believers all the credit goes to God, Toms act of kindness wasn't of his own free will, he was just a tool used to fulfill Gods purposes.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAnd here on tweb is the time and place. Tass's comments were in response to CP's giving credit to God for Toms act of kindness, not directed at the woman or her sick husband.
CP's too close to this one.
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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostI agree with Tass's comments, and I agree TWeb is the place to make them, but I don't agree this is the thread to do it in.
CP's too close to this one.
Originally posted by JimLBecause apparently for believers all the credit goes to God, Toms act of kindness wasn't of his own free will, he was just a tool used to fulfill Gods purposes.
2) Nobody said, nor even HINTED, that Tom's acts of kindness are not of his own free will -- I think pretty much anybody can choose to do good things
C) I never said, nor implied, that Tom was "just a tool" used to fulfill God's purpose -- that really diminishes Tom's role in this
It's such a goofy rant that it doesn't even come close to hurting my feelings -- it just exposes Jimmy for the angry hateful bigot he is. In fact, it's this kind of stuff that makes the average Christian think of somebody like Jimmy when somebody mentions "atheist", rather than a guy like Tom.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostThat's the third time you quoted that post, CP. Do you want him responding here, or not?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, yeah, but Jimmy really overshoots the runway on this...Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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