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[Cerebrum123]

So basically, you're arguing that the benders would win over the saiyans only if the sayians let them.

Who said anything about letting them? I said fair chance. That means not cheating, and not ending the fight before there is an actual beginning.

Goku was hardly the typical Saiyan.

I didn't say he was. I just specified a fair chance. Just because some Saiyans would be willing to cheat, doesn't mean others would. Vegeta may have had different understandings of honor, but he also valued it highly.

[Cerebrum123]

I'm glad I'm not posting here - I don't have a CLUE what you're talking about.

Japanese cartoons, and comics.

[Cow Poke]

Japanese cartoons, and comics.

But I don't speak or understand Japanese.

Does it count that I've eaten at Benihana's?

[Carrikature]

Element bender. The other two are sissies.

[JonathanL]

Who said anything about letting them? I said fair chance. That means not cheating, and not ending the fight before there is an actual beginning.

What do you mean not cheating? Do they need to have a countdown before they begin or something? Even so the Saiyan would move so quickly at the beginning of the match that the bender would barely have time to react before he's knocked unconscious.



Just face it, unless the bender was facing one of the most pathetically weak sayians possible he would barely stand a chance. When a saiyan who's as weak as Raditz is fast enough to catch a bullet from a gun shot from a few meters away there's no chance at all that some bender with the reaction speed of a normal human is going to be able to keep up. The only reason there would not be an "actual beginning" to the fight is because the power disparity between the two types of fighters is so huge that the outcome is determined from the very outset, unless the sayian in question is a complete moron when it comes to fighting. And we all know how plausible that is.

So yes, what you said did amount to practically having the sayian allow the bender to win.

[JonathanL]

Element bender. The other two are sissies.

The average saiyan would completely decimate any bender, no matter who it is.

[Carrikature]

The average saiyan would completely decimate any bender, no matter who it is.

Which doesn't stop them from being sissies. There's so much screaming, they remind me of Neil Patrick Harris in Undercover Brother.

[rogue06]

But I don't speak or understand Japanese.

Does it count that I've eaten at Benihana's?

初心者

[JonathanL]

Which doesn't stop them from being sissies.

No, but it establishes benders as being even bigger sissies.

[Cerebrum123]

But I don't speak or understand Japanese.

Does it count that I've eaten at Benihana's?

They translate them you know.

What do you mean not cheating? Do they need to have a countdown before they begin or something?

That, or something like the World Tournament.

Even so the Saiyan would move so quickly at the beginning of the match that the bender would barely have time to react before he's knocked unconscious.

The hand may be faster than the eye, but neither is as fast as the mind. IIRC Aang didn't need to move his body in order to bend elements. A strong bender wouldn't either.

Just face it, unless the bender was facing one of the most pathetically weak sayians possible he would barely stand a chance. When a saiyan who's as weak as Raditz is fast enough to catch a bullet from a gun shot from a few meters away there's no chance at all that some bender with the reaction speed of a normal human is going to be able to keep up. The only reason there would not be an "actual beginning" to the fight is because the power disparity between the two types of fighters is so huge that the outcome is determined from the very outset, unless the sayian in question is a complete moron when it comes to fighting. And we all know how plausible that is.

Oh, you mean how Vegeta ended up losing because he let Yajirobi cut off his tail when he fought Goku?

Or let himself get taken over by Babidi, or when he let Cell absorb the last Android? Or even when he controlled by Baby?

Vegeta, a powerful Saiyan, is rather weak of mind, and will. That kind of weakness leads to losing to an opponent inferior in brute strength. Saiyans weren't exactly known for their intellects(Gohan, and Goten were half Saiyan, half human, and the humans in the had quite a few geniuses among them(technologically/tactically speaking), so they don't really count).

So yes, what you said did amount to practically having the sayian allow the bender to win.

I disagree.

[Cerebrum123]

Which doesn't stop them from being sissies. There's so much screaming, they remind me of Neil Patrick Harris in Undercover Brother.

I love that part!

[T-Shirt Ninja]

Well, avoiding the "who would win in a fight" conversation going on, I would definitely be a Saiyan.

I think Saiyans and benders would fight alongside each other and be an unstoppable force against evil.

[Teallaura]

I think Whitebeard could have stomped them both into the ground.

And the Pokey trainers are just weak...

[Cerebrum123]

I think Whitebeard could have stomped them both into the ground.

And the Pokey trainers are just weak...

With Pokemon to do everything for them what do you expect?

[Teallaura]

With Pokemon to do everything for them what do you expect?

That they not be included in the poll.