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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt will depend on whether the actress can portray a convincing Doctor.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI think it depends on how much the creators are depending on stunt-casting to carry the show and to what exent they focus on the gender swap. I can already see the new Doctor exhibiting an attraction to a female character and then saying something flippant like, "What's the big deal? I used to be a man. In many ways, I still am. *wink*" and then the female character swoons. I really fear that's where the show is headed.
I hope they keep it that way. If they try to change that and put him into some gay relationship or any relationship (heck how would you even figure out which would be a "gay" relationship since he becomes a woman?) then that pretty much ruins the show. And not to mention it is a popular show with kids, so they really need to keep the sexuality out of the show.
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They pushed the envelope pretty far last season with the character of Bill. The season finale even had a lesbian kiss. I wouldn't be surprised to see them push it even further with a female Doctor, especially given this last season's subtle, and in some cases overt, attempts to push the idea that sexuality is a social construct and not a biological reality.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostOne of the things about Doctor Who is he never gets sexually involved with any companions or anyone else. Even his relationship with River Song was pretty platonic on the screen. He is supposed to be aloof from such things (although he has a daughter so he had to have some relationship with another time lord at one time)
I hope they keep it that way. If they try to change that and put him into some gay relationship or any relationship (heck how would you even figure out which would be a "gay" relationship since he becomes a woman?) then that pretty much ruins the show. And not to mention it is a popular show with kids, so they really need to keep the sexuality out of the show.
Also, didn't Community predict the female Doctor Who shtick in one of their episodes and hate her?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostDidn't he have a pseudo-romantic relationship with Rose, which is why they cloned him so that he and Rose could live happily ever after?
Also, didn't Community predict the female Doctor Who shtick in one of their episodes and hate her?
It's this consistency that leads me to argue that the Doctor's character is essentially male. His sexuality, on the relatively rare instances when it has been addressed, has never been ambiguous.Last edited by Mountain Man; 07-18-2017, 01:53 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostDidn't he have a pseudo-romantic relationship with Rose, which is why they cloned him so that he and Rose could live happily ever after?
Also, didn't Community predict the female Doctor Who shtick in one of their episodes and hate her?
and what is "Community"?
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostRose was definitely portrayed as a love interest but primarily for the 10th Doctor. Then there was River Song who eventually married the 11th and shared some adventures with the 12th. However, even before that in the classic series, it was strongly implied that Doctor #4 and Romana, a female Time Lord, were romantically involved, but this largely reflected the real-life romance of actors Tom Baker and Lala Ward. And then there was Doctor #3 and Jo Grant who shared a certain, understated affection, with the Doctor even becoming very slightly jealous when she became romantically attached to another character on the program. Even going all the way back to the first Doctor, he flirted with a woman in ancient Roman times and accidently became engaged when he unknowingly performed an obscure ritual (making her hot chocolate, of all things).
It's this consistency that leads me to argue that the Doctor's character is essentially male. His sexuality, on the relatively rare instances when it has been addressed, has never been ambiguous.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe Rose thing was hinted at but never acted upon.
and what is "Community"?
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostMiles Morales should have his own, different, identity (unless perhaps he's Spiderman in a parallel universe). Jane Foster and Beta Ray Bill weren't ever Thor, just people who temporarily wielded Thor's hammer. Which I don't object to in principle (But, gee a space horse? Bleh).
Ever watched the 'Diversity and Comics' channel on YouTube?
And, no, I haven't watched that channel.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostWow. You know your Doctor Who. Scary.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Capaldi has been dynamite in the role, so no complaints from me on that account.
I hadn't heard that interview, but doesn't surprise me. As I said, this last season has covertly and overtly attempted to blur the lines of traditional sexuality.
Former DOCTOR WHO actor Peter Davison (Doctor #5 and my personal favorite) has been rather adamant over the years that the Doctor should never be played by a female, largely because the Doctor's character is iconically male.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostAFAIK Miles Morales only took up the mantle of Spider-Man after Peter Parker died, at least that's the way they portrayed it in one of the games I play. They are calling Jane Foster Thor, and Thor has been going by Odinson. Beta Ray Bill is weird yeah, but kind of an interesting character IMO.
And, no, I haven't watched that channel.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's been my all-time favorite TV show for the past 30-years, which is why feminising the Doctor feels like a kick in the teeth to me.
Assuming Doctor Who's audience leans mostly male (I know that definitely holds true for the long time, hardcore fans), I'd be surprised if she lasts long. Sci-Fi audiences typically enjoy protagonists they can identify with, which is why the more popular characters have always been nerdy males.
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