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Originally posted by The Melody Maker View PostI looked for a can of pop preaching, and instead found this strange thing...
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou didn't get the other one?
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Preacher
American Gods
Lucifer
Outcast
The Leftovers
The Exorcist
People are absolutely fascinated with Christianity, but only so long as good is called evil, and evil is called good. God is always evil or incompetent (or simply missing), and Satan is charming, and not so bad a guy afterall. It'd be nice if there was something at the level of these shows in terms of writing and creativity, but pro-Christ. I imagine Satan wouldn't let that happen without one hell of a fight though.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostGood show based on a popular 90s comic series, but I think it's interesting (though not surprising) how many fantasy TV shows taking pot-shots at orthodox Christianity are on air right now. It's always been popular to do so, but I don't remember seeing so many shows with that as a main premise as I have lately. Just off the top of my head,
Preacher
American Gods
Lucifer
Outcast
The Leftovers
The Exorcist
People are absolutely fascinated with Christianity, but only so long as good is called evil, and evil is called good. God is always evil or incompetent (or simply missing), and Satan is charming, and not so bad a guy afterall. It'd be nice if there was something at the level of these shows in terms of writing and creativity, but pro-Christ. I imagine Satan wouldn't let that happen without one hell of a fight though.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
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- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostSupernatural
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Then again, if divine intervention from a benevolent God were an option, where would the story be? Do you really expect show producers to put enough thought into giving good reasons for God to not instantly solve the problem of the episode(e.g. character growth, the characters need to do it themselves, no need to intervene due to the characters being capable enough to solve the problem, stick to problems at a real word level of danger)? Especially since the threats might be world threatening.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe missing/uncaring God seems to be a relatively common theme. Another example is the Legion movies and short-lived TV series
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostThen again, if divine intervention from a benevolent God were an option, where would the story be? Do you really expect show producers to put enough thought into giving good reasons for God to not instantly solve the problem of the episode(e.g. character growth, the characters need to do it themselves, no need to intervene due to the characters being capable enough to solve the problem, stick to problems at a real word level of danger)? Especially since the threats might be world threatening.Last edited by Adrift; 07-13-2017, 05:21 PM.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostGood show based on a popular 90s comic series, but I think it's interesting (though not surprising) how many fantasy TV shows taking pot-shots at orthodox Christianity are on air right now. It's always been popular to do so, but I don't remember seeing so many shows with that as a main premise as I have lately. Just off the top of my head,
Preacher
American Gods
Lucifer
Outcast
The Leftovers
The Exorcist
People are absolutely fascinated with Christianity, but only so long as good is called evil, and evil is called good. God is always evil or incompetent (or simply missing), and Satan is charming, and not so bad a guy afterall. It'd be nice if there was something at the level of these shows in terms of writing and creativity, but pro-Christ. I imagine Satan wouldn't let that happen without one hell of a fight though.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
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Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe missing/uncaring God seems to be a relatively common theme. Another example is the Legion movies and short-lived TV series
I'm curious to see whether the TV version of "The Strain" gets around to bringing in the supernatural / angelic aspect of the print version. The final season is about to start, and there have been only the vaguest hints of that.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostBefore that, of course, was The Prophecy movie series, and a dozen other movies and tv shows that also work on the same premise of angels=bad, demons=good.
You'd think after all of these decades with the same trope, creative types would eventually do something different, but flipping the Biblical mythos on its head, painting Christians as dumb and/or villainous, and then slapping on some sort of Gnostic subtext is apparently still considered creative and radical. Of course, as I mention above, that's little surprise seeing as the adversary is pulling the strings. Poisoning the hearts and minds of people against God, his kingdom, and his people is part of this spiritual battle.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostSupernaturalBeefcake Buffy
But yeah, even someone like me (If it's not on Netflix or doesn't show up on DVD, I don't watch it) has vaguely noticed the trend of, "Anti-Religious," fantasy shows over the last bit as well. I like to think it'll inevitably implode on itself from oversaturation and Taking Itself Too Seriously(TM), but hey... we can dream, can't we? Heck, it'd be fun to see a show that satirically turns the premise on it's head, where the Protagonist is fighting against God... except God isn't actually the raging colostomy bag that the protagonist thinks He is.
I also imagine that a show with Pro-Christian themes (even the aforementioned satire) would get written off as, "Preachy," whilst conveniently overlooking the fact that- in all reality- everyone's trying to get a message across (be it, "I had a crap day, I'm mad," or "Jesus is awesome," or even, "THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION MUST BE SEIZED, COMRADE!").Have You Touched Grass Today? If Not, Please Do.
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Originally posted by Chaotic Void View PostFixed that for you.
But yeah, even someone like me (If it's not on Netflix or doesn't show up on DVD, I don't watch it) has vaguely noticed the trend of, "Anti-Religious," fantasy shows over the last bit as well. I like to think it'll inevitably implode on itself from oversaturation and Taking Itself Too Seriously(TM), but hey... we can dream, can't we? Heck, it'd be fun to see a show that satirically turns the premise on it's head, where the Protagonist is fighting against God... except God isn't actually the raging colostomy bag that the protagonist thinks He is.
I also imagine that a show with Pro-Christian themes (even the aforementioned satire) would get written off as, "Preachy," whilst conveniently overlooking the fact that- in all reality- everyone's trying to get a message across (be it, "I had a crap day, I'm mad," or "Jesus is awesome," or even, "THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION MUST BE SEIZED, COMRADE!").sigpic
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