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Should Convicted Felons get Voting Rights Back?
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostAnd realistically, we know this is the main issue."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Outis View PostIndeed. That _might_ make a Republican win possible."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Outis View PostIndeed. That _might_ make a Republican win possible.That's what
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Would you be okay with convicted felons, including those with multiple convictions for committing violent acts, being allowed to own and carry firearms after they "paid their debt"?
But of course the proper answer in response to the OP is "only if they're black, because racist."
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostEric Holder is talking about restoring voting rights to convicted felons.
I don't like Eric Holder one tiny bit, but I don't necessarily believe that convicted felons should never again be allowed to vote, particularly for non-violent crimes.
Do you believe the commission of a felony should FOREVER cause you to lose your right to vote?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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I think that ought to be a period after completing a sentence that should be completed to demonstrate that the offender has indeed mended their ways before restoring their right to vote.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Outis View PostAre you discriminating against other punctuation?
Nuthin' personal
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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I have not read up as to why it was put in place; I suspect it's to keep a large class of criminals from being able to vote and change something from being illegal to being legal. Or on the premise that if you are a neer-do-well and did a lengthy term, then really you shouldn't be able to vote, your conviction is proof of your ineptness in decision making.No Silicon Heaven? Preposterous! Where would all the calculators go?
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Originally posted by supton View PostI have not read up as to why it was put in place; I suspect it's to keep a large class of criminals from being able to vote and change something from being illegal to being legal. Or on the premise that if you are a neer-do-well and did a lengthy term, then really you shouldn't be able to vote, your conviction is proof of your ineptness in decision making.
"If you aren't willing to follow the law, you can't claim the right to make the law for everyone else."
Read more: Why Can't Felons Vote? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/nation/...#ixzz2tDWMMgmjThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe pseudo-quasi-semi-official statement from the State of Mississippi is...
"If you aren't willing to follow the law, you can't claim the right to make the law for everyone else."
Read more: Why Can't Felons Vote? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/nation/...#ixzz2tDWMMgmj
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Well, yeah, then there's this... I thought this was a really DUMB "summary"....
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So here's the thing: Felons who are out of prison have largely served the punishment prescribed by the judicial system. Shouldn't that be enough? Penalizing them further by taking away their right to vote is not just unfair to them, it's bad for us. We'll be lucky if 40% of eligible voters cast a ballot on Nov. 7. What kind of a democracy is that?
Read more: Why Can't Felons Vote? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/nation/...#ixzz2tDYr3kXK
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People are free NOT to vote - we don't force them. Sounds like he's saying "not enough people vote, so let's give the vote to felons, cause then it will be a REAL democracy!
(yeah, I'm being somewhat facetious, but I think that's a dumb justification for restoring voting rights to felons)
(I sure do miss the cite tags!)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I'm not too sure that allowing convicted felons the right to vote made them less likely to be rearrested. I tend to think that it might be more likely that those who have decided to turn their lives around and become productive members of society are more likely to vote as they have decided that they have a stake in society.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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