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Should Convicted Felons get Voting Rights Back?

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  • Should Convicted Felons get Voting Rights Back?

    Eric Holder is talking about restoring voting rights to convicted felons.

    I don't like Eric Holder one tiny bit, but I don't necessarily believe that convicted felons should never again be allowed to vote, particularly for non-violent crimes.

    Do you believe the commission of a felony should FOREVER cause you to lose your right to vote?
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    I agree with Holder on this one. I believe once you've served your duty to society and done your time, it should be over with. Now, I'm willing to make an exception with registered sex offenders having to still register after their release, but that's for the safety of children. There's no compelling safety reason to make people lose their votes so I don't have a problem with it.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    • #3
      No. The "done your time" part doesn't really fly since losing your vote is part of your punishment.

      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      particularly for non-violent crimes.
      Some non-violent crimes do more harm than any violence one man can do. Heck, so can some legal acts. There are only so many people you can kill before you're taken down.
      "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

      There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
        No. The "done your time" part doesn't really fly since losing your vote is part of your punishment.
        Right, you lose your vote for the duration of your sentence.
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          It depends on the felony, but yeah I do agree with holder, even though I think he is a sleezebag. And Darthy stay out of US politics, you don't live here.
          A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
          George Bernard Shaw

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Catholicity View Post
            And Darthy stay out of US politics, you don't live here.
            Make me.
            "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

            There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
              Right, you lose your vote for the duration of your sentence.
              You lose it for life in most states.
              "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

              There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                Do you believe the commission of a felony should FOREVER cause you to lose your right to vote?
                Yes.
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                  Yes.
                  Why?
                  "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                  • #10
                    I think all convicted felons should lose their citizenship for life and be forced to immigrate to Canada after they have served their sentence.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      Why?
                      Because you are still a convicted felon, even after you have served the punitive portion of your sentence. I also think that there should be mandatory sentences for felons with no "wiggle room" allowed for judges.
                      That's what
                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                      Stephen R. Donaldson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Do you believe the commission of a felony should FOREVER cause you to lose your right to vote?
                        No.

                        I understand that losing voting rights during jail sentences (in your country) is part of the punishment of being separated from society by witholding of certain rights. Once the jail term is over, why should the separation continue?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                          No.

                          I understand that losing voting rights during jail sentences (in your country) is part of the punishment of being separated from society by witholding of certain rights. Once the jail term is over, why should the separation continue?
                          Because they were stupid enough to do the crime in the first place. No one forced them to become a felon.
                          That's what
                          - She

                          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                          Stephen R. Donaldson

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                          • #14
                            People with no respect for the law should not have a say in what they are since they cannot be trusted to support justice rather than support whatever serves them best.
                            "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                            There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                            • #15
                              People are not static and their attitudes can change throughout time. Both George W. Bush and Dick Cheney had DUIs earlier in their lives but both significantly reformed their behavior.
                              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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