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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostI don't think that matters very much to the current sitting justices. They seem to be having a field day with being the arbiters of what the law SHOULD say instead of what it DOES say.
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostDenmark is also a Monarchy with a State Church. Their Constitution explicitly establishes a state religion. Ours explicitly prevents the establishment of a state religion.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View Postyeah, it's not an issue to all you "moderate" voices of support, but I guarantee it's an issue to some...and it's already happened/happening in Canada, so...I don't know why you would think it will be any different here.
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostDenmark is also a Monarchy with a State Church. Their Constitution explicitly establishes a state religion. Ours explicitly prevents the establishment of a state religion.
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I remember when liberals exercised their disdain for marriage by "shacking up". Now, they demand that marriage include them.
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostThat particular bogeyman has never been a real issue. Only the barest fringe of marriage equality supporters want to force religious institutions to perform ceremonies against their will, and those who argue for such a notion are rightly denounced as quacks by the rest of us.
The only people who should be "forced" to provide marriage licenses are those who work in the public offices which issue marriage licenses, and only because that is literally their job.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostDenmark has a law that requires the institution to perform same sex marriages. The leftists on the SCOTUS seem to LOOOOOVE what Europe does, so it won't be long before the "quacks" win again.
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostThat particular bogeyman has never been a real issue. Only the barest fringe of marriage equality supporters want to force religious institutions to perform ceremonies against their will, and those who argue for such a notion are rightly denounced as quacks by the rest of us.
The only people who should be "forced" to provide marriage licenses are those who work in the public offices which issue marriage licenses, and only because that is literally their job.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostHappens over and over here.
I hope the court has also thought ahead to changing the divorce laws.
The first couple in Canada to marry under the legislation (who sued a religious group, btw), decided to divorce after not very long and ran into trouble because nobody thought farther than the end of their pc noses.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's all it takes - the militant anti-Church activists who will find a sympathetic activist judge. It only takes one.
And that's your right.
I hope the court has also thought ahead to changing the divorce laws.
The first couple in Canada to marry under the legislation (who sued a religious group, btw), decided to divorce after not very long and ran into trouble because nobody thought farther than the end of their pc noses.
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostThat particular bogeyman has never been a real issue. Only the barest fringe of marriage equality supporters want to force religious institutions to perform ceremonies against their will,
and those who argue for such a notion are rightly denounced as quacks by the rest of us.
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Originally posted by Irate Canadian View PostI'm going to voice a unpopular opinion here. I feel gay marriage should be legalized, however, there must be a major concession to religious Churches and organizations allowing them not to be forced to perform ceremonies that are against their will.
The only people who should be "forced" to provide marriage licenses are those who work in the public offices which issue marriage licenses, and only because that is literally their job.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostAnd I have a feeling that the Texas law will be challenged and overturned. They want everything, as I have been saying all along. This is only the beginning.
*for those who aren't aware - the reason he testified FOR the bill is because he was disgusted with "his community" for plotting against the Churches in meetings he had attended.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostWelcome to what it's been like in Canada for 2 decades, fellas.
And, except for Texas, good luck with trying to acquire any sort of pastor protection, or any other protection on religious grounds.
That was promised to us, and went down the pipes at the very first marriage.
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