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Perform Same-Sex Marriage Or Go To Jail !!!!!!
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אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd I suspect that you would support the state here too: http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...over-Abortionsאָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostIs see your ability to guess my beliefs has not improved.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostAlmighty state? Seriously? I think you're just trolling.
Nope, just reporting the facts as I see them...Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostAnd I should pay any attention to a site by someone called Center Against Religious Extremism? Why not honest news sites?
"First, “being forced to shut down their businesses” is stretching the truth massively. If a business owner chooses to shut their business rather than follow the law of the state that licenses them to do business, that’s not “being forced.”""As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostRead it, it pretty much confirms the story is accurate and you get to read knee slapping statements like this one:
"First, “being forced to shut down their businesses” is stretching the truth massively. If a business owner chooses to shut their business rather than follow the law of the state that licenses them to do business, that’s not “being forced.”"
Now, there is no requirement that any political body pass laws that stand up to judicial scrutiny. The American politcal and legal system does not practice "pre-vetting" of proposed legislation, and for good reason -- one really doesn't know how any legislation will apply to as-yet-undefined fact situations. And what that means is, you MUST follow a law until such time as the courts might toss it out. I doubt the courts will toss out this particular ordinance, but they might "distinguish" it beyond recognition.
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostBut your 'suspicions' do not quite qualify as 'facts'. You do see the difference, right?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostYou mean like the fact that you take the liberal side on just about every political issue?אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostTo operate legally within a state as a church or business? Specifically, if they want their religious or civil marriage ceremonies to be recognized by the state, I would presume there must be a certain amount of paperwork involved.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostMy point is why should a small business have to be recognized by the state as a religious based business to keep their God given rights?Last edited by robrecht; 10-22-2014, 04:20 PM.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostHow else is the state/city supposed to know that a group is claiming an exemption based on their religious identity? I imagine the application/registration process should also allow for good communication and review of what groups and exemptions are recognized by the state and what may not be (eg, racial discrimination, polygamy, underage marriage).Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostWhy should they need an exemption in the first place. Sexual choice is not at all the same as race and should not be included in the statutes. No one could recognize a homosexual if they did not shove the fact in peoples faces.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostFreedom of religion protects the rights of gay people who feel they have a right to marriage"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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