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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd how, exactly, are YOU dealing with it, Sam? By endlessly posting charts and graphs and spewing forth arguments which don't do a DADBLAMED THING?
These are potential solutions to the problem being discussed. What you've been shouting about does not deal with the actual problem of income inequality and therefore isn't even in that set. That's not to say that what you're doing isn't useful or admirable . . . it's just not going to do anything to correct worsening inequality."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Oh, and I meant to post this chart:
"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd how, exactly, are YOU dealing with it, Sam? By endlessly posting charts and graphs and spewing forth arguments which don't do a DADBLAMED THING?
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Originally posted by Sam View PostOh, and I meant to post this chart:
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostIn what way(s) would it be helpful?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Sam View PostIncreasing the minimum wage would help reduce income inequality, bringing millions of people out of poverty and posing a net benefit to the economy. Legislation setting a "living wage" law for states to implement would reduce income inequality. Taxing investment income above a certain point would reduce income inequality, as the top 1% hold almost all investments.
These are potential solutions to the problem being discussed. What you've been shouting about does not deal with the actual problem of income inequality and therefore isn't even in that set. That's not to say that what you're doing isn't useful or admirable . . . it's just not going to do anything to correct worsening inequality.
These are a few of the things wrong. The responsibility lies mainly with the individual, not with government.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Sam View PostIncreasing the minimum wage would help reduce income inequality, bringing millions of people out of poverty and posing a net benefit to the economy."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostMore like it'll encourage people to outsource, automate and hire more of the illegals you imported.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIf conservative economic policy works, then explain the Kansas experiment that Republican Gov. Brownback is in danger of losing his job over. Talking points don't help your argument in the face of empirical evidence to the contrary.
You must have received your talking points today!
Your friend,
CPThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIf conservative economic policy works, then explain the Kansas experiment that Republican Gov. Brownback is in danger of losing his job over. Talking points don't help your argument in the face of empirical evidence to the contrary."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostNo. The actual problem is not that the minimum wage is too low. The problem is that the government has driven so much productivity out of the United States. The problem is that unions have taught people that they should not have to work so hard, but still keep getting raises. The problem is that television advertizing has taught people that they should have more, regardless of what they do.
These are a few of the things wrong. The responsibility lies mainly with the individual, not with government.
Productivity, as noted before, continues to increase, as does GDP. The argument that laborers are working less hard than some era prior is totally unsubstantiated."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWho said anything about vocational training? But, since you brought that up, there happens to be a vocational training center nearby that teaches welding --- people who graduate that course are hired by local industry, and the going START rate is $22/hour. There's also a diesel mechanics vocational training center up the road... their graduates ALSO make well over TWICE the minimum wage. But this isn't good enough for you, Sam, because it doesn't ALSO reward the lazy person who just does barely enough to get by!
I got vocational training though the military and I could use it to make 2 to 3 times the min wage. I wonder what kind of 'vocational training' Sam is talking about that 'doesn't work'."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
I got vocational training though the military and I could use it to make 2 to 3 times the min wage. I wonder what kind of 'vocational training' Sam is talking about that 'doesn't work'."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View Postnow, not the problems we had 50 or 60 years ago."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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