Income Inequality?

[Spartacus]

But it wasn't Judas complaining. It was all of the Disciples.

John 12:4-6.

Actually, yes it is. God was telling the Jews to not be stingy to their own Jewish poor so as to not lose so much on the day of forgiveness of debts, but to be generous in meeting their needs so God would bless them because of their generosity. Again, this was a midrashic use where the immediate context of the OT scripture was not important to the NT usage.

So God didn't make the world with enough resources for everyone? Do you actually believe that?

[Spartacus]

So you are basically a Communist that believes in God.

So I can reject every major philosophical tenet of Communism, but still be a communist? Cool.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...ration_en.html

Or Acts 4: 32-35.

[seer]

So I can reject every major philosophical tenet of Communism, but still be a communist? Cool.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...ration_en.html

Or Acts 4: 32-35.

Communism as an economic system does not necessarily negate belief in God. And I'm not sure what your point about Acts is. This is Christians helping Christians. Of their own free will - not forced by law.

[Sparko]

Too lazy to look particularly diligently, but what jobs I've seen open take more qualifications than I have.

go to school.

Show me where I said this.

how about throughout this whole thread?

What does the bolded line mean?

It means as an apostle and a leader of the church, who is helping them and teaching them, he could ask for them to pay him for that, but he doesn't.

I'm not yet in a position to follow the rules particularly well, but the fact that I fail to live up to my own standards doesn't mean the standards are faulty.

You realize I am not saying that we should not help others, right? I believe in charity and in being honest and if I had a business I would want to make sure my employees were happy and earning a decent wage. I just have a problem with making that some sort of law. It would be MY decision to run MY company that way. Just like you don't want me telling you how to spend your money, I don't want people telling me how I should spend mine. Forcing employers to pay more than they can afford doesn't do anyone any good. Telling employers that they are making too much money is not right either. Because while some might be greedy sons of guns who just want to screw their workers and line their own pockets, a lot of employers are honest people who might want to make more to help their family, to grow their business and to help their employers and the public by making better products (R&D isn't cheap)

and despite what Sam says, most of the businesses in the USA are "mom and pop" businesses. Small businesses like bookstores, restaurants, plumbers, electricians, car mechanics, and so on and the owners don't sit on their fat wallets. They work hard at their business and run it day to day, putting their own money into it. If they want to earn enough to retire some day, they need to make profits too. Most end up broke and out of business though. Small businesses fail a lot more than they succeed.

[Spartacus]

go to school.

Where do you think I've been for the past 4 years?

how about throughout this whole thread?

Show me. I've been questioning your reasoning, but I haven't said all that much about my prescriptions for society.

It means as an apostle and a leader of the church, who is helping them and teaching them, he could ask for them to pay him for that, but he doesn't.

Fair interpretation.

You realize I am not saying that we should not help others, right? I believe in charity and in being honest and if I had a business I would want to make sure my employees were happy and earning a decent wage. I just have a problem with making that some sort of law. It would be MY decision to run MY company that way. Just like you don't want me telling you how to spend your money, I don't want people telling me how I should spend mine. Forcing employers to pay more than they can afford doesn't do anyone any good. Telling employers that they are making too much money is not right either. Because while some might be greedy sons of guns who just want to screw their workers and line their own pockets, a lot of employers are honest people who might want to make more to help their family, to grow their business and to help their employers and the public by making better products (R&D isn't cheap)

and despite what Sam says, most of the businesses in the USA are "mom and pop" businesses. Small businesses like bookstores, restaurants, plumbers, electricians, car mechanics, and so on and the owners don't sit on their fat wallets. They work hard at their business and run it day to day, putting their own money into it. If they want to earn enough to retire some day, they need to make profits too. Most end up broke and out of business though. Small businesses fail a lot more than they succeed.

And from the very beginning, the closest I've made to a positive prescription is "eat the rich," by which I think I very clearly mean the same very small subset Sam has been referring to.

If you want to argue that minimum wage laws will hurt small businesses, fine. I believe that. I accept that. If you had asked me that 62 pages ago, I would have said I agreed to it. But that doesn't come close to justifying the compensation given to CEOs of huge corporations-- which, if you had been paying attention, you would have noticed are almost always the main point used by people supporting minimum wage hikes.

[Paprika]

Show me.

Voila:

I've been questioning your reasoning

[Sparko]

So I can reject every major philosophical tenet of Communism, but still be a communist? Cool.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...ration_en.html

Or Acts 4: 32-35.

Communism and Socialism have nothing to do with religion. It is political and economic. That's it.

There have been several religious communist systems. In fact there have been Christian communist and socialist systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_socialism

[Bill the Cat]

John 12:4-6.

Matt 26:8 But the disciples were indignant when they saw this, and said, “Why this waste?

Mark 14:4 But some were indignantly remarking to one another, “Why has this perfume been wasted? \
Mark 14:5 For this perfume might have been sold for over three hundred denarii, and the money given to the poor.” And they were scolding her.

As I said, Judas was not alone in scolding her, nor was he alone in the Lord's rebuke.

So God didn't make the world with enough resources for everyone? Do you actually believe that?

God did not expect everyone to have everything they need on their own. He knew that there would be rich and there would be poor, and He never told the rich to make sure that there were no poor.

[Spartacus]

Voila:

to question another's reasoning is not necessarily to provide one's own policies.

[Sparko]

Where do you think I've been for the past 4 years?

so take a job flipping burgers to pay for your school.

Show me. I've been questioning your reasoning, but I haven't said all that much about my prescriptions for society.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110348
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110373
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110399
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110447
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110497
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110527

and lots of others. I don't want to waste time searching through this entire thread.

Fair interpretation.

Thank you.

And from the very beginning, the closest I've made to a positive prescription is "eat the rich," by which I think I very clearly mean the same very small subset Sam has been referring to.

If you want to argue that minimum wage laws will hurt small businesses, fine. I believe that. I accept that. If you had asked me that 62 pages ago, I would have said I agreed to it. But that doesn't come close to justifying the compensation given to CEOs of huge corporations-- which, if you had been paying attention, you would have noticed are almost always the main point used by people supporting minimum wage hikes.

There you go again, deciding whether what someone earns is good or not according to you. Wanting to say they are earning too much money. Sure some are, but many are not. most are not.

[Paprika]

to question another's reasoning is not necessarily to provide one's own policies.

Silence, you liberal commie!

[Sparko]

Silence, you liberal commie!

That's a redundant term that is redundant.

[Spartacus]

so take a job flipping burgers to pay for your school.

The McDonald's down the block doesn't seem to have any openings.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110348
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110373
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110399
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110447
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110497
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post110527

and lots of others. I don't want to waste time searching through this entire thread.

There you go again, deciding whether what someone earns is good or not according to you. Wanting to say they are earning too much money. Sure some are, but many are not. most are not.[/QUOTE]

you're still talking past me instead of to me.

[Paprika]

There you go again ...[wanting] to say they are earning too much money. Sure some are

Do you actually read what you type?

[Sparko]

The McDonald's down the block doesn't seem to have any openings.

What are you going to school to learn?

you're still talking past me instead of to me.

There you go again skipping over the parts you don't like. I answered your question and gave you links to where you proposed the things I said you did. Did you admit it? No, you skipped right past it. Then you accuse me of talking past you. sheesh.