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Why do some Americans believe weird things?
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Originally posted by Faber View PostI took my wife and kids to the second National Sword Conference on Revival and Soul Winning at Cobo Hall in Detroit in 1977. Were you there by any chance?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostFrom the country that put humans on the moon, has some of the leading universities in the world, and has been at the forefront of much of the technological development of the past 70 years comes an amusing and interesting article by S Jonathan O'Donnell
The "Trump Prophecy" video clip is well worth watching. Who believes this nonsense? It is straight out of the twelfth century?
https://theconversation.com/demons-o...america-144898
There are even people who don't think their weird things are weird things, they think they are normal, and everyone else is weird. It's the darndest thing.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd beyond that, she was unmarried, which makes sexual relations even more unlikely given the culture.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHA! Little do you know.
I mean everyone knows that everyone back then spoke Early Modern English, specifically what is known as "Jacobean" although many erroneously think it was "Elizabethan" (after all, it is the King JAMES Bible, not the Queen Elizabeth Bible )
I have encountered someone [and I do not think they were a POE] who posted to another site for several years and who, apparently, sincerely believed that seventeenth century English was the language spoken prior to the Tower of Babel etc. This language, according to this contributor, was then lost and rediscovered in seventeenth century England.
However, this individual also alleged that he [and he always identified as male] had fought in Vietnam, so possibly the experience of war, or the ingestion of too many hallucinogenics during his tours of duty, had left him mentally affected."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post( re the bolded first sentence ) No, it's not. in the old testament text,
However, as I have illustrated the Greek word παρθένος [i.e. virgin] did not necessarily carry the same meaning [i.e. to be without any sexual experience] within Judaism at the time.
Clearly the Greek writer of the gospel of Luke assumed [based on his reading of the Greek Septuagint word παρθένος] that Mary was virgo intacta and had never had any sexual intercourse. However, as I have previously pointed out, "virgin mothers" were not unknown within first century Judaism."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYeah, we have other euphemisms for virgin such as maiden, which means a young unmarried woman but used to also mean a virgin. They even used to call the hymen the maidenhead. IOW, HA's obsession with the technical definition of a word rather than understanding that the Bible is full of euphemisms is misplaced. For instance, saying that a man "knew" a woman did not mean that he had met her and was familiar with her but rather that they had sexual relations in the same way that saying today a man went to bed or slept with a woman doesn't mean that they rested together.
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostAmusing although your attempted jibe might be you should not mock.
I have encountered someone [and I do not think they were a POE] who posted to another site for several years and who, apparently, sincerely believed that seventeenth century English was the language spoken prior to the Tower of Babel etc. This language, according to this contributor, was then lost and rediscovered in seventeenth century England.
However, this individual also alleged that he [and he always identified as male] had fought in Vietnam, so possibly the experience of war, or the ingestion of too many hallucinogenics during his tours of duty, had left him mentally affected.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Well then you know that such peculiarly eccentric individuals exist."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostIt's generally her way of derailing a thread. Seems to have been successful here."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt is her thread and I'm the one who brought up virgin birth [ATTACH=CONFIG]48120[/ATTACH]
Suddenly she latched onto the definition of "virgin" in the bible and has been spiraling down an irrelevant tangent ever since. Your point was that you believe in a virgin birth, just as cowpoke believes in Communion. The debate about whether the original scripture 2000ish actually made the claim that Mary was a virgin is irrelevant to your belief that she was and the common teaching of the belief. That "muddy" definition from older text is irrelevant to the way its been taught and understood for centuries and is literally a derailment of the point that you and cowpoke were actually making at the time.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostWell there we are then. You know that such peculiarly eccentric individuals exist.
We've had our share of screwballs including several who were self-proclaimed prophets, IIRC at least one messiah, and of course the guy who thought Yahweh was a real fire-breathing dragon (no, I am not kidding).
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostYeah. As part of a statement of religious beliefs. At that point she'd largely lost the argument of the main thread where she was bashing american and their "weird beliefs".
Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostSuddenly she latched onto the definition of "virgin" in the bible and has been spiraling down an irrelevant tangent ever since. Your point was that you believe in a virgin birth, just as cowpoke believes in Communion.
Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostThat "muddy" definition from older text is irrelevant to the way its been taught and understood for centuries and is literally a derailment of the point that you and cowpoke were actually making at the time."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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