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Supreme court strikes down Louisiana law restricting abortions.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, there's a whole abortion industry teaching them that it's only a clump of cells.
I mean, unless you're willing to concede that instead of "a whole abortion industry", you meant supporters of abortion...
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd, you realize all this abortion industry stuff was started by a racist woman, yes?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, there's a whole abortion industry teaching them that it's only a clump of cells. Do we really need to go over all that AGAIN?
And, you realize all this abortion industry stuff was started by a racist woman, yes?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostGiven that it's a "whole industry" doing this, you should be able to post three examples of that industry teaching women that "it's only a clump of cells".
Anything I post is obviously going to be from a pro-life source, which you'll dispute.
Anything that Planned Parenthood puts out is going to be much less honest about what they actually teach.
I know that our local Pregnancy Center hears this all the time, and I've personally heard it at least two dozen times when a young girl comes into the clinic trying to justify having an abortion.
I mean, unless you're willing to concede that instead of "a whole abortion industry", you meant supporters of abortion...
And an atheist to boot! I guess if you're going to poison the well, you might as well go whole-hog...
It's indisputable, however, that Planned Parenthood was started by a vocal eugenics enthusiast.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View Postif you mean Margaret Sanger, she was against abortionThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostThey have accomplices among progressives who shield them from both criminal prosecution and vigilantes.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOriginally posted by Whateverman View PostGiven that it's a "whole industry" doing this, you should be able to post three examples of that industry teaching women that "it's only a clump of cells".
Anything I post is obviously going to be from a pro-life source, which you'll dispute.
The rest of your response makes it clear that you can't (or in any case wont) support your claim.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostYou don't have the first clue as to what I will or wont dispute :)
The rest of your response makes it clear that you can't (or in any case wont) support your claim.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI'm against pro-life terrorism if that is what you mean by vigilantism. I prefer peaceful protests, and advocating our positions tirelessly."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View Postif you mean Margaret Sanger, she was against abortion
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOriginally posted by Whateverman View PostOriginally posted by Cow Poke View PostOriginally posted by Whateverman View PostGiven that it's a "whole industry" doing this, you should be able to post three examples of that industry teaching women that "it's only a clump of cells".
Anything I post is obviously going to be from a pro-life source, which you'll dispute.
You're welcome to support your claim, but it's clear by now that you'd rather change the subject. Indeed, that seems to be your shtick in general.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostDid she actually mention abortion in her writings? I know her basic premise was eliminating "the inferiors" so "the superiors" could thrive and society would be better off, though she was very cloaked when it came to specific races, unlike many of her 20th century colleagues who argued the same thing but were much more overt about the "inferior races." I suspect there were some shrewd eugenicists that were much more careful about the language they used so as not to spook societal and political support, not unlike many liberals today who have cleverly managed to turn it into a "female equality" issue.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostWhat I meant was, did she actually give a definitive opinion of support one way or the other. She seemed neutral about the subject.
[Sanger] adopted the mainstream eugenics language of the day, partly as a tactic, since many eugenicists opposed birth control on the grounds that the educated would use it more. Though her own work was directed toward voluntary birth control and public health programs, her use of eugenics language probably helped justify sterilization abuse. Her misjudgments should cause us to wonder what parallel errors we are making now and to question any tactics that fail to embody the ends we hope to achieve.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, I've been trying to prove or disprove her support for abortion, but she seems to be all over the map. Gloria Steinem even seems to indicate that Sanger said what she needed to say in order to advance her narrative.
[Sanger] adopted the mainstream eugenics language of the day, partly as a tactic, since many eugenicists opposed birth control on the grounds that the educated would use it more. Though her own work was directed toward voluntary birth control and public health programs, her use of eugenics language probably helped justify sterilization abuse. Her misjudgments should cause us to wonder what parallel errors we are making now and to question any tactics that fail to embody the ends we hope to achieve."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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