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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhy, Jimmy, it almost sounds like you're blaming the victim. I have it on good authority that makes you a racist.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd you have taken those courses or walked the mile?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI bet he doesn't realize it, though.
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat's because of the covert societal racism that has seeped into his brain. He's unconsciously racist, and any attempts to deny it will simply affirm his guilt.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd you have taken those courses or walked the mile?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostOK, at 42:17 it looks like he did kick him in that video.
when the two officers are dealing (one of them for nearly three quarters of an hour) with a compliant drunk, having to explain things over and over, putting up with his confusion and general stupidity, there's a false sense of security -- boredom, actuallly.... then all of a sudden, the subject turns it into a battle in the blink of an eye -- the adrenaline kicks in, you're in a fight for your life, and it's physically impossible just to "turn off the adrenaline" seconds later.
I don't know of any way that can ever change, because it's a natural physiological response.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm still trying to figure out the whole thing, but this I know ----
when the two officers are dealing (one of them for nearly three quarters of an hour) with a compliant drunk, having to explain things over and over, putting up with his confusion and general stupidity, there's a false sense of security -- boredom, actuallly.... then all of a sudden, the subject turns it into a battle in the blink of an eye -- the adrenaline kicks in, you're in a fight for your life, and it's physically impossible just to "turn off the adrenaline" seconds later.
I don't know of any way that can ever change, because it's a natural physiological response.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah, he could have been kicking away the taser too, before stepping over him to handcuff him. You can't see clear enough.
It's CONCEIVABLE...... like maybe, "man, I gave you opportunity after opportunity, I treated you with respect, I......"
I just don't know.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah, he could have been kicking away the taser too, before stepping over him to handcuff him. You can't see clear enough.Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's really hard for me to believe, as PATIENT and respectful as he had been throughout all the process, that he would suddenly become hostile like that.
It's CONCEIVABLE...... like maybe, "man, I gave you opportunity after opportunity, I treated you with respect, I......"
I just don't know."What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostIt also could be that he is rolling him on to his stomach so he doesn't have to get with in grabbing distance or even just moving his legs together with his foot.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe usual 'Lets look at the facts while we condemn the victim argument.'
Originally posted by JimL View PostObviousl, like CP, being in law enforcement, biased to begin with.
You, however, haven't made coherent arguments against my claims and have basically just repeated yourself over and over. So....who should everyone in this thread be inclined to believe?
Originally posted by JimL View PostI haven't read all of Jims posts, but from what I have that isn't his argument at all. The basic argument is that you don't shoot a fleeing suspect in the back unless there is good reason to believe that he is a serious threat to the officer or the public. He wasn't, his only purpose was to flee. Stupid, but not worthy of death."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHis death was a direct result of the officer having little regard for human life and shooting him in the back as he fled instead of letting him go. He didn't even fire a warning shot."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostIf you'd read Tennessee vs. Garner or knew anything about modern law enforcement, you'd know that warning shots are strictly prohibited. It's an old school thing that is considered reckless and needlessly risky (accidentally inuring or killing someone who is not posing a threat).
Lt Reicher got all flustered and yelled something like "what's the matter with you, why are you shooting at GOD, don't they tell you at the Academy that HE'S on OUR side!"The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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