DOJ drops all charges against Michael Flynn!

[Mountain Man]

I think what a lot of people don't understand is the extent to which police can legally go to extract a confession....

It's one thing to trick someone into confessing when there was an actual crime committed, and you have good reason to believe they may have done it. It's quite another to falsify evidence of a crime in order to coerce a "confession" from an innocent man.

[rogue06]

I think what a lot of people don't understand is the extent to which police can legally go to extract a confession....

I personally know of a case where the husband was arrested for growing around a half dozen pot plants in the woods behind his house (they owned several acres including a couple in the woods). That he had some pot in the house was undeniable but that he was the one growing those plants was next to impossible to establish. The DA told him that if he didn't confess they would also charge his wife as a co-conspirator and when they both went to prison they were going to place their children in foster care.

[Cow Poke]

It's one thing to trick someone into confessing when there was an actual crime committed, and you have good reason to believe they may have done it. It's quite another to falsify evidence of a crime in order to coerce a "confession" from an innocent man.

And that's the problem with this whole "police are allowed to lie" thing.

[Cow Poke]

I personally know of a case where the husband was arrested for growing around a half dozen pot plants in the woods behind his house (they owned several acres including a couple in the woods). That he had some pot in the house was undeniable but that he was the one growing those plants was next to impossible to establish. The DA told him that if he didn't confess they would also charge his wife as a co-conspirator and when they both went to prison they were going to place their children in foster care.

I was much more creative in my bluffing.

[rogue06]

I was much more creative in my bluffing.

They weren't bluffing. The wife was charged although the charges were later dropped after the husband spent almost $20K on lawyers.

[Cow Poke]

They weren't bluffing. The wife was charged although the charges were later dropped after the husband spent almost $20K on lawyers.

Oh, I don't doubt that --- I'm just saying that I toed the line to always be telling the truth, but that took some creativity. When they cried, "You LIED to me", I'd say, "nope, I said...." and they'd see I was telling the truth.

My favorite example:

We had an outstanding warrant for a guy we could never seem to catch at home. From the PD one day, I just called him on the phone.

Poke: Mr Wilson, this is officer Poke at the police department, and I have something I need to discuss with you.
Wilson: Oh, yeah? What's it about?
Poke: Well, it's rather personal, and I'd much rather discuss it in person.
Wilson: Can you give me a clue what it's about?
Poke: Well, like I said, it's personal, and I really can't discuss it over the phone.

About an hour later, Wilson shows up at the PD asking for officer Poke.

I come out,

Poke: "are you [proper name Wilson]?"
Wilson: Yeah, what's this all about.
Poke: Please turn around and put your hands behind your back....
Wilson: EXPLETIVE!!!!!! I KNEW that's what this was!!!!

[firstfloor]

If justice is done, Barr will do time for this:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/11/p...tes/index.html

[Mountain Man]

I love the title of this article:

"Nevertheless, Sidney Powell persisted"

In an honest universe, Ms. Powell, the courageous attorney who engineered a miraculous defense of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn that led to the Justice Department withdrawing criminal charges against President Trump's former National Security Adviser, would be hailed as a political and cultural hero. This solitary woman just faced down the epitome of the "old boys network" and emerged victorious.

https://townhall.com/columnists/larr...isted-n2568654

[Cow Poke]

If justice is done, Barr will do time for this:

Have you ever consulted with someone for interpretation of your dreams?

[Mountain Man]

If justice is done, Barr will do time for this:


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/11/p...tes/index.html

So let me get this straight: the FBI supposedly had the goods on Flynn for serious crimes that potentially compromised national security, and yet they felt the need to falsify evidence and threaten his son in order to coerce him into pleading guilty to a mere process crime?

As the saying goes, that doesn't pass the smell test.

[JimL]

I have a long history of not telling the truth?



Comey said she did. Look it up.

No, Comey didn't say she did. Look it up.

[Cow Poke]

No, Comey didn't say she did..

He did.

Look it up

I did.

[JimL]

It's one thing to trick someone into confessing when there was an actual crime committed, and you have good reason to believe they may have done it. It's quite another to falsify evidence of a crime in order to coerce a "confession" from an innocent man.

Okay, so now you can stop with the "they threatened to charge his son" nonsense. Right? Which btw, there is no evidence that they did so anyway.

[firstfloor]

Have you ever consulted with someone for interpretation of your dreams?

[JimL]

So let me get this straight: the FBI supposedly had the goods on Flynn for serious crimes that potentially compromised national security, and yet they felt the need to falsify evidence and threaten his son in order to coerce him into pleading guilty to a mere process crime?

As the saying goes, that doesn't pass the smell test.

So, let me get this straight, you're so naive as to believe that Gen Flynn is stupid enough to twice plead guilty in court to something that he knows he never did? Dupe!