Joe Biden's #metoo moment

[seanD]

Trump has stated that he believes they could be false accusations. I got to say, if he's using "4-d chess" here, that was kind of a smart strategy. He's playing good cop and might compel the left to take a position against Biden just to spite Trump.

[JimL]

Trump has stated that he believes they could be false accusations. I got to say, if he's using "4-d chess" here, that was kind of a smart strategy. He's playing good cop and might compel the left to take a position against Biden just to spite Trump.

That's just dumb, sean. Trump could hardly say otherwise himself with all the accussations against him. He'll leave that dirty work up to Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, the propaganda arm of the republican party.

[seanD]

That's just dumb, sean. Trump could hardly say otherwise himself with all the accussations against him. He'll leave that dirty work up to Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, the propaganda arm of the republican party.

So what you're saying is that, since Trump has principles, he's giving a modest opinion about it because he doesn't what to look like a hypocrite? Are you sure that's the argument YOU want to use.

Nah bro. Trump is the king of trolls. He would love nothing better than to stir the pot of controversy and goad Biden like he does to everyone all the time. It's clearly a strategy. He's adding salt to the wound by saying a woman who claims she was sexually assaulted isn't credible. The guy that the left absolutely abhors is literally mirroring what they themselves are doing to this poor woman. It's brilliant.

[JimL]

So what you're saying is that, since Trump has principles, he's giving a modest opinion about it because he doesn't what to look like a hypocrite? Are you sure that's the argument YOU want to use.

Nah bro. Trump is the king of trolls. He would love nothing better than to stir the pot of controversy and goad Biden like he does to everyone all the time. It's clearly a strategy. He's adding salt to the wound by saying a woman who claims she was sexually assaulted isn't credible. The guy that the left absolutely abhors is literally mirroring what they themselves are doing to this poor woman. It's brilliant.

No, Trump is definitely a jerk, but he doesn't want his own dirty laundry being brought up again even though his own base couldn't care less.

[rogue06]

Sure, Ford had plenty of corroborating evidence as well, much more so than I've seen from Reade at this point, it's just that you conservatives don't seem to know what corroborating evidence is.

Take a bit of delusion and a dash of projection and you end up with a little jimmy post.

[Sparko]

Being that a president is elected, he/she doesn't require a Senate confirmation process, becoming a Supreme Court Judge does.



Sure, Ford had plenty of corroborating evidence as well, much more so than I've seen from Reade at this point, it's just that you conservatives don't seem to know what corroborating evidence is. It can be weak evidence or strong evidence, it isn't proof, which is why I wouldn't have convicted him criminally, even though I believe Fords claim. But Kavanaugh proved himself to be a liar, which itself is evidence against him, and in his own testimony, he proved himself to be unfit to sit on the Supreme Court for life which is why he shouldn't have been confirmed in my opinion..

So tell us this corroborating evidence that Ford had. Please.

[Sparko]

Biden's defense: "I don't remember!"



The sad thing is that it is probably true. He can't remember what he did 5 minutes ago.

That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[JimL]

Biden's defense: "I don't remember!"



The sad thing is that it is probably true. He can't remember what he did 5 minutes ago.

That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

No, Bidens defense is that it never happened. Reade claimed to have registered a complaint so all that needs be done is to retrieve the complaint which should be on file. Bidens suggestion. I don't think you're going to find that a complaint was ever filed.

[Mountain Man]

Biden's defense: "I don't remember!"



The sad thing is that it is probably true. He can't remember what he did 5 minutes ago.

That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I agree, Joe's "I don't remember" defense is completely believable. The problem for his defenders, though, is that while it's possible he's innocent, at least in this one instance, nobody can say, "That doesn't sound like something Joe would have done," because it totally sounds like something Joe would have done.

[Mountain Man]

Reade claimed to have registered a complaint so all that needs be done is to retrieve the complaint which should be on file. Bidens suggestion. I don't think you're going to find that a complaint was ever filed.

If only Joe would unseal his Senate records which are currently under lock and key at the University of Delaware...

[JimL]

I agree, Joe's "I don't remember" defense is completely believable. The problem for his defenders, though, is that while it's possible he's innocent, at least in this one instance, nobody can say, "That doesn't sound like something Joe would have done," because it totally sounds like something Joe would have done.

Biden didn't say he didn't remember, he said it never happened. At least get your stories right!

[Sparko]

No, Bidens defense is that it never happened. Reade claimed to have registered a complaint so all that needs be done is to retrieve the complaint which should be on file. Bidens suggestion. I don't think you're going to find that a complaint was ever filed.

"Do you remember her? Do you remember any, any types of complaints that she might have made?" Brzezinski asked.

"I don't remember any type of complaint she may have made. It was 27 years ago and I don't remember- nor does anyone else that I'm aware of. And the fact is, I don't remember. I don't remember any complaint ever having been made," Biden responded.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-...ers-tara-reade

[RumTumTugger]

If only Joe would unseal his Senate records which are currently under lock and key at the University of Delaware...

yeah if he's innocent he has nothing to worry about since a search of Tara Reades name in those records, as Mica from MSNBC suggested they do, would turn up nothing right?

[seanD]

"Do you remember her? Do you remember any, any types of complaints that she might have made?" Brzezinski asked.

"I don't remember any type of complaint she may have made. It was 27 years ago and I don't remember- nor does anyone else that I'm aware of. And the fact is, I don't remember. I don't remember any complaint ever having been made," Biden responded.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-...ers-tara-reade

How does the saying go? If you want to get out of the hole you're in, stop digging?

[Mountain Man]

yeah if he's innocent he has nothing to worry about since a search of Tara Reades name in those records, as Mica from MSNBC suggested, would turn up nothing right?

I agree in theory. My misgiving, however, is that I'm not certain that any such complaint would have been added to Joe's permanent record -- we're talking about the same government body that maintained a slush fund for paying off victims. And secondly, let's say he does release his records and says, "See? No mention of Tara Reade!" what guarantee do we have that the records haven't been recently tampered with? Does the U. of Delaware have some system in place to catalog any changes to the archive, and could that system be circumvented?

But I think the most telling quote from Joe is that he doesn't want to release his Senate record because he's afraid his political opponents will use it as "fodder" against him. Makes you wonder what else is in there that he wants to keep hidden.