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Lab Leak: The conspiracy theory is shaping up to look like real possibility
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
More smoking guns...
Scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology were planning to genetically enhance airborne coronaviruses and release aerosols containing “novel chimeric spike proteins” among cave bats in Yunnan, China, according to the 2018 proposal submitted to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Looking forward to them making public the proposal that they're talking about.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
Why would it go public? The scientific perpetrators are doing everything they can with china to cover it up, and they have the left MSM and shills like you on their side. So far everything we've learned has come from FOIA requests or leaks from whistleblowers.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
Why would it go public? The scientific perpetrators are doing everything they can with china to cover it up, and they have the left MSM and shills like you on their side. So far everything we've learned has come from FOIA requests or leaks from whistleblowers.
Given the track record of previous leaks not quite measuring up to the allegations, it seems like a good idea to withhold judgment until then.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Looking forward to them making public the proposal that they're talking about.
Here:
https://drasticresearch.org/2021/09/20/1583/
and https://drasticresearch.files.wordpr...analysis-1.pdf
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Did you bother to go to the links I put in my cite?
This one says, "The actual DEFUSE Proposal Documents will be published in due course."
Which is what I'm waiting for.
This is interesting stuff, but it's a little hard to judge without the DEFUSE Proposal itself.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
REVEALED: Daszak Admits Fauci Funded Chinese Coronavirus Research at Conference Featuring Hunter Biden-Linked Pandemic Group.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/c...-b1932574.html
Covid ‘was spreading virulently in Wuhan’ as early as summer 2019, report suggests
Chinese government spent nearly twice the amount on PCR tests in 2019, compared to 2018, shows data compiled by Australian cyber security firm
Labs in China’s Wuhan city dramatically increased the procurement of polymerase chain reaction (PCR) equipment in the second half of 2019, indicating that Covid-19 was “spreading virulently” months before the government reported the first case to the WHOHubei Province Districts Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Robert Potter, chief executive and founder of Internet 2.0, told the Australian that some of the procurement data may be benign. “But taken together it gives us a trend that comprehensively challenged the official narrative that the pandemic started in December,” Mr Potter, also one of the authors of this study, said.
“It also shows there’s a significant amount of procurement from the government level, the PLA and the Centre for Disease Control, as well as sensitive laboratories that are in the Hubei province,” he added.
China reported the first cluster of cases on 31 December 2019, while the WHO published its first advisory on the cases on 5 January 2020. According to Internet 2.0’s study, the increased spending was seen as early as May 2019.
The study was, however, disputed by China’s Foreign Ministry.
“Virus traceability is a serious scientific issue that should be addressed by scientists,” a spokesperson told Bloomberg before dismissing it as yet another dubious claim about the origin of the coronavirus pandemic.
Other medical experts also approached the conclusion drawn from the research with caution.
Dr Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security said that he did not know the specific reason behind the increase in purchases in Hubei province at that time. But he added that the increase in purchases of PCR equipment in general is not surprising as it had become “the methodology of choice for pathogen detection”, even before the pandemic.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
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The Lab-Leak Debate Just Got Even Messier
As the pandemic drags on into a bleak and indeterminate future, so does the question of its origins. The consensus view from 2020, that in the likeliest scenario SARS-CoV-2 emerged naturally, through a jump from bats to humans (maybe with another animal between), persists unchanged. But suspicions that the outbreak started from a laboratory accident remain, shall we say, endemic. For months now, a steady drip of revelations has sustained an atmosphere of profound unease.
The latest piece of evidence came out this week in the form of a set of murkily sourced PDFs, with their images a bit askew. The main one purports to be an unfunded research grant proposal from Peter Daszak, the president of the EcoHealth Alliance, a global nonprofit focused on emerging infectious diseases, that was allegedly submitted to DARPA in early 2018 (and subsequently rejected), for a $14.2 million project aimed at “defusing the threat of bat-borne coronaviruses.” Released earlier this week by a group of guerrilla lab-leak snoops called DRASTIC, the proposal includes a plan to study potentially dangerous pathogens by generating full-length, infectious bat coronaviruses in a lab and inserting genetic features that could make coronaviruses better able to infect human cells. (Daszak and EcoHealth did not respond to requests for comment on this story.)
The document seems almost tailor-made to buttress one specific theory of a laboratory origin: that SARS-CoV-2 wasn’t simply brought into a lab by scientists and then released by accident, but rather pieced together in a deliberate fashion. In fact, the work described in the proposal fits so well into that narrative of a “gain-of-function experiment gone wrong” that some wondered if it might be too good to be true. Central figures in the coronavirus-origins debate were involved: Among Daszak’s listed partners on the grant were Ralph Baric of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, an American virologist known for doing coronavirus gain-of-function studies in his lab, and Shi Zhengli, the renowned virus hunter from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. (Shi Zhengli has not responded to a request for comment. A UNC spokesperson responded on behalf of Baric, noting that “the grant applicant and DARPA are best positioned to explain the proposal.”)
There is good reason to believe the document is genuine. The Atlantic has confirmed that a grant proposal with the same identifying number and co-investigators was submitted to DARPA in 2018. The proposal that circulated online includes an ambitious scheme to inoculate wild bats against coronaviruses, carried out in concert with the National Wildlife Health Center, a research lab in Wisconsin. A spokesperson for the U.S. Geological Survey, which oversees the center, acknowledged this connection and affirmed the identifying number and co-investigators, noting that the agency’s involvement in the project ended with DARPA’s rejection of the grant proposal. “This is the proposal that was not funded,” USGS Acting Public Affairs Chief Rachel Pawlitz said after reviewing the PDF. She could not, however, vouch for the document in its entirety.
Jared Adams, DARPA’s chief of communications, said in an emailed statement that the agency was not at liberty to discuss proposals submitted as part of its emerging-pathogenic-threat program, which was launched in January 2018, and that DARPA has never funded “any activity or researcher associated with EcoHealth Alliance or Wuhan Institute of Virology.” An article about the proposal published yesterday in The Intercept points to a tweet by Daszak last weekend, before the PDF was widely shared, that refers obliquely to the release of unfunded grant proposals.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostThe Lab-Leak Debate Just Got Even Messier
This was an interesting article because it was written by an obvious unbiased source (that is, biased in favor of the official origin theory) because they display the same covid cult denial characteristics about the theory, in spite of the fact they offer strong evidence in favor of the theory. What I also find interesting is that the arguments of the scientific shills still trying to cover for the alleged perpetrators use some of the weakest arguments against the theory; arguments that seem almost comically circumstantial.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Harvard Scientist:
Wuhan lab leak 'is now the most likely origin of Covid because Beijing tried to cover it up' and it is 'reasonable to believe virus was engineered in China', Harvard scientist tells MPs- The Wuhan lab leak is now the most likely origin of the coronavirus pandemic, MPs have been told
- Harvard scientist Dr Alina Chan said it is 'reasonable' to believe that Covid was engineered by China
- She also said that Beijing's cover-up of the initial outbreak made the lab-leak hypothesis likely
- Tory peer Lord Ridley also told the Science Select Committee a lab leak is the most likely origin
Harvard scientist Dr Alina Chan told the Science and Technology Select Committee that it is 'reasonable' to believe that Covid was genetically engineered in China.
She also said that the Chinese Communist Party's cover-up of the initial outbreak in Wuhan two years ago and attempts to sabotage the World Health Organisation's inquiry into the origins of the pandemic made the lab-leak theory likely.
Tory peer Lord Ridley, who has co-authored a book on the origin of the virus with Dr Chan, said the fact that experts have still not found the animal host that would support a natural origin despite two years of research supports claim that Covid came from a lab.
Recent revelations of China's attempted cover-up have forced British and US intelligence officials to take seriously the lab-leak hypothesis, once dismissed as a crank conspiracy theory.
However, the bombshell allegations are likely to heap pressure on the UK Government to challenge Beijing's assurances that the virus came from the natural world. They are also likely to raise further questions about the relationship between Chinese President Xi Jinping and the WHO, which last year was accused of publishing a whitewash report into the outbreak.
Dr Chan told MPs: 'I think the lab origin is more likely than not. Right now, it's not safe for people who know about the origin of the pandemic to come forward.
'But we live in an era where there is so much information being stored that it will eventually come out. We have heard from many top virologists that a genetically-engineered origin is reasonable, and that includes virologists who made modifications to the first SARS virus.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-MPs-told.html
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